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		<title>by: DM</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-306</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Y'know, I thought Bibby would get a few more assists w/Webber gone, but that doesn't seem to be the case yet. Probably should have just gone w/the track record. Four years w/the Kings and he never averaged more than 5.4 apg before last year's 6.8. Maybe we should have seen it as an anamoly instead of the beginning of a trend. But either way, if you drafted him you knew you'd need another top assist guy. He still brings so much value to the table, especially because he's had exactly one injury his entire career. 

I can't see how you can not go w/Damon over Rafer at this point. And yeah, Houston without McGrady is just disgusting. They spend 10-12 seconds trying to get the ball into Yao, who can't get position, then he has to come out to the 3-point line to set a pick then someone has to improvise at the end of the shot clock. Ugly stuff.

As for picking up Bonzi and dropping one of those guys, I think I'd have to go with Steve Nash. I have a feeling the past six years have been a mirage and he's about to collapse. No, I'd definitely drop Channing Frye, I still don't trust Larry Brown. You can consider Telfair or Damon, but I'll almost always go with the starting point guard over an off-the-bench rookie big man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I thought Bibby would get a few more assists w/Webber gone, but that doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case yet. Probably should have just gone w/the track record. Four years w/the Kings and he never averaged more than 5.4 apg before last year&#8217;s 6.8. Maybe we should have seen it as an anamoly instead of the beginning of a trend. But either way, if you drafted him you knew you&#8217;d need another top assist guy. He still brings so much value to the table, especially because he&#8217;s had exactly one injury his entire career. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see how you can not go w/Damon over Rafer at this point. And yeah, Houston without McGrady is just disgusting. They spend 10-12 seconds trying to get the ball into Yao, who can&#8217;t get position, then he has to come out to the 3-point line to set a pick then someone has to improvise at the end of the shot clock. Ugly stuff.</p>
<p>As for picking up Bonzi and dropping one of those guys, I think I&#8217;d have to go with Steve Nash. I have a feeling the past six years have been a mirage and he&#8217;s about to collapse. No, I&#8217;d definitely drop Channing Frye, I still don&#8217;t trust Larry Brown. You can consider Telfair or Damon, but I&#8217;ll almost always go with the starting point guard over an off-the-bench rookie big man.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-305</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I just picked up Nash so I have PG's:

nash, terry, mighty mouse, and telfair

I need to drop one to pick up Bonzi Wells off waivers.

Who would you drop?  Or Channing Frye?

thanks!  The website is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just picked up Nash so I have PG&#8217;s:</p>
<p>nash, terry, mighty mouse, and telfair</p>
<p>I need to drop one to pick up Bonzi Wells off waivers.</p>
<p>Who would you drop?  Or Channing Frye?</p>
<p>thanks!  The website is awesome.
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		<title>by: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-304</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alston vs. Mighty Mouse

I'm one of those guys who picked up Alston at the beginning of the season (off waivers nonetheless) hoping that he'd be getting numbers somewhere between the last two years, with about 2 3's, 1.5 steals, 6 dimes, and ~ 12 points. 

It seems that both Alston and Damon Stoudamire could be looking to put up similar numbers based on career averages and numbers over the last few years.

Right now Damon is sitting in free agency and has been doing so for quite some time, but it seems like the people I'm looking at (Villanueva..etc,) always get snapped up before I make the plunge. 

Any advice as to who will have the better season? My league is deep and competitive and counts minutes and 11 other standard categories. 

It seems like both teams have some secondary options at PG (Head and Bobby Jax), but neither or them will unseed these guys as the starters.

Also, I'm concerned with how Houston only scores 80 points a game...if that even...when limits Alston's ability to get points and assists...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alston vs. Mighty Mouse</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those guys who picked up Alston at the beginning of the season (off waivers nonetheless) hoping that he&#8217;d be getting numbers somewhere between the last two years, with about 2 3&#8217;s, 1.5 steals, 6 dimes, and ~ 12 points. </p>
<p>It seems that both Alston and Damon Stoudamire could be looking to put up similar numbers based on career averages and numbers over the last few years.</p>
<p>Right now Damon is sitting in free agency and has been doing so for quite some time, but it seems like the people I&#8217;m looking at (Villanueva..etc,) always get snapped up before I make the plunge. </p>
<p>Any advice as to who will have the better season? My league is deep and competitive and counts minutes and 11 other standard categories. </p>
<p>It seems like both teams have some secondary options at PG (Head and Bobby Jax), but neither or them will unseed these guys as the starters.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m concerned with how Houston only scores 80 points a game&#8230;if that even&#8230;when limits Alston&#8217;s ability to get points and assists&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks.
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		<title>by: bublitchki</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-303</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Count me among the ranks of still-worried Bibby owners.

What concerns me the most are his paltry assist totals. Since I am an owner of LeBron and Kirilenko - two solid assist guys who obviously have underproduced in that category so far - I absolutely need my point guard to average more than four lousy assists a game. 

What I find troubling about Bibby's situation is that he seems to have taken on more of a scorer's role this year. There have already been several games where Brad Miller and Abdur-Rahim have gotten more assists than him. Hell, there were even a couiple of games where Bonzi freakin' Wells dropped more dimes than Bibby.

Given all the new faces in the Sacramento starting five, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'll wait a few more weeks, but if the assist totals don't start creeping up into the 6.5-7 range, I may have to do the unthinkable and try and package him up for a more pass-oriented PG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among the ranks of still-worried Bibby owners.</p>
<p>What concerns me the most are his paltry assist totals. Since I am an owner of LeBron and Kirilenko - two solid assist guys who obviously have underproduced in that category so far - I absolutely need my point guard to average more than four lousy assists a game. </p>
<p>What I find troubling about Bibby&#8217;s situation is that he seems to have taken on more of a scorer&#8217;s role this year. There have already been several games where Brad Miller and Abdur-Rahim have gotten more assists than him. Hell, there were even a couiple of games where Bonzi freakin&#8217; Wells dropped more dimes than Bibby.</p>
<p>Given all the new faces in the Sacramento starting five, I&#8217;m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I&#8217;ll wait a few more weeks, but if the assist totals don&#8217;t start creeping up into the 6.5-7 range, I may have to do the unthinkable and try and package him up for a more pass-oriented PG.
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		<title>by: Rook</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-302</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great stuff.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff.  Thanks.
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		<title>by: DM</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-301</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, Sweetney's definitely my favorite player of those four. The dude is just a beast. He's always produced when given the chance -- with decent minutes you can be positive he will be above average in points and be a serious force in boards and FG%. I've written a lot about how frustrating Skiles can be, but the way Sweetney's playing now he doesn't have a choice but to run him out there. He's their only interior scoring threat, and while 35 mpg might be asking a bit much, I think he can average at least 30 from here on out. 

West just needs to prove himself a bit more for me. He's been very solid so far, but has just had that one breakout game. And it's worth noting that P.J. Brown, J.R. Smith and Speedy Claxton were all out when it happened, and those are three guys who score a bunch of points for the Hornets. 

I picked up Collison recently and have been watching lots of Sonics games as a result. He's a smart player, but I think they run an average of &lt;I&gt;maybe&lt;/I&gt; one play a game for him. But he's great at positioning himself for rebounds, and with the Sonics apparently giving up on defense and running up and down the floor, there will be plenty of shots fired up. I see him with little upside, but little downside if he can remain in the lineup, which seems likely at this point. Think along the lines of P.J. Brown -- a solid guy to have at the end of your lineup.

Haslem's another P.J. Brown-ish type player. He's putting up basically the same numbers as last year -- around 11/9 with great percentages -- and he never really has a big game that makes you take notice. He's certainly not exciting, but he usually gets the job done. That said, he has the least upside and most downside to any of the players mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Sweetney&#8217;s definitely my favorite player of those four. The dude is just a beast. He&#8217;s always produced when given the chance &#8212; with decent minutes you can be positive he will be above average in points and be a serious force in boards and FG%. I&#8217;ve written a lot about how frustrating Skiles can be, but the way Sweetney&#8217;s playing now he doesn&#8217;t have a choice but to run him out there. He&#8217;s their only interior scoring threat, and while 35 mpg might be asking a bit much, I think he can average at least 30 from here on out. </p>
<p>West just needs to prove himself a bit more for me. He&#8217;s been very solid so far, but has just had that one breakout game. And it&#8217;s worth noting that P.J. Brown, J.R. Smith and Speedy Claxton were all out when it happened, and those are three guys who score a bunch of points for the Hornets. </p>
<p>I picked up Collison recently and have been watching lots of Sonics games as a result. He&#8217;s a smart player, but I think they run an average of <I>maybe</I> one play a game for him. But he&#8217;s great at positioning himself for rebounds, and with the Sonics apparently giving up on defense and running up and down the floor, there will be plenty of shots fired up. I see him with little upside, but little downside if he can remain in the lineup, which seems likely at this point. Think along the lines of P.J. Brown &#8212; a solid guy to have at the end of your lineup.</p>
<p>Haslem&#8217;s another P.J. Brown-ish type player. He&#8217;s putting up basically the same numbers as last year &#8212; around 11/9 with great percentages &#8212; and he never really has a big game that makes you take notice. He&#8217;s certainly not exciting, but he usually gets the job done. That said, he has the least upside and most downside to any of the players mentioned.
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		<title>by: bublitchki</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-300</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If Sweetney keeps getting 35+ minutes a night, I like him the best of all the PFs you listed. I see him as a probable 20-10 guy.

West's recent rebound and scoring numbers have been inflated by the absence of Brown and Claxton.  He should settle in around 15-8.

Collison is solid but a cut below Sweetney, IMHO. I also see him in the 15-8 range. And I don't like Haslem at all, particularly after Shaq returns.

Bear in mind that all of these guys are pretty two dimensional, giving you scoring and rebounds but little else. Although Sweets did block 3 and steal 2 in his last game against the Lakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sweetney keeps getting 35+ minutes a night, I like him the best of all the PFs you listed. I see him as a probable 20-10 guy.</p>
<p>West&#8217;s recent rebound and scoring numbers have been inflated by the absence of Brown and Claxton.  He should settle in around 15-8.</p>
<p>Collison is solid but a cut below Sweetney, IMHO. I also see him in the 15-8 range. And I don&#8217;t like Haslem at all, particularly after Shaq returns.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that all of these guys are pretty two dimensional, giving you scoring and rebounds but little else. Although Sweets did block 3 and steal 2 in his last game against the Lakers.
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		<title>by: Rook</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-299</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's another non-PG comment.  You mentioned Sweetney and David West in passing, and made it sound like you'd definitely prefer Sweetney over West, when I assumed you'd have said the opposite.  What are your thoughts more generally on those two, along with the other PFs who have had unexpectedly great starts, like Collison and Haslem?  Any predictions on who will have the best seasons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another non-PG comment.  You mentioned Sweetney and David West in passing, and made it sound like you&#8217;d definitely prefer Sweetney over West, when I assumed you&#8217;d have said the opposite.  What are your thoughts more generally on those two, along with the other PFs who have had unexpectedly great starts, like Collison and Haslem?  Any predictions on who will have the best seasons?
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		<title>by: DM</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>J-Will + Damon instead of Smush + Jalen. Yeah, I like that. I still think Rose will put up pretty decent numbers this year, especially once those 3s start falling, but Mitchell yanks him around enough that it can be frustrating. It'll be tough for Damon to get 16 ppg, but I think he'll be pretty close on the 2 3pg. Look back to his 03-04 numbers (last year was a contract push, remember) and I think that's where he'll end up this season. 

Telfair has had a great couple games, and I'd rather have him than Smush. He's the man in PDX, but he needs to keep hitting those 3s to be valuable. He just isn't getting enough steals or assists, and that 46% shooting is bound to come down. He's certainly a better bet than Bell or Stevenson, and probably Rose as well. He'll at least be more interesting to own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J-Will + Damon instead of Smush + Jalen. Yeah, I like that. I still think Rose will put up pretty decent numbers this year, especially once those 3s start falling, but Mitchell yanks him around enough that it can be frustrating. It&#8217;ll be tough for Damon to get 16 ppg, but I think he&#8217;ll be pretty close on the 2 3pg. Look back to his 03-04 numbers (last year was a contract push, remember) and I think that&#8217;s where he&#8217;ll end up this season. </p>
<p>Telfair has had a great couple games, and I&#8217;d rather have him than Smush. He&#8217;s the man in PDX, but he needs to keep hitting those 3s to be valuable. He just isn&#8217;t getting enough steals or assists, and that 46% shooting is bound to come down. He&#8217;s certainly a better bet than Bell or Stevenson, and probably Rose as well. He&#8217;ll at least be more interesting to own.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2005/11/21/as-the-point-guard-turns-13/#comment-297</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great article, as always.
I recently dropped Smush for Telfair. After a slow start Telfair's been great the last 5 games: 15pts,1.5 3pt, 4 asts, 2.5 rbs, 1 stl, 52%fg, 79%ft.I'm not expecting him to keep up that pace, but I do think he'll improve throughout the year. How long before he gets consistent? He's on a roller-coaster team, and will have Jack competing for minutes. Luckily Nate likes to play the both at the same time. Is he a better pickup than Jalen Rose,Raja Bell, or Deshawn Stevenson. He has more upside, that's for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, as always.<br />
I recently dropped Smush for Telfair. After a slow start Telfair&#8217;s been great the last 5 games: 15pts,1.5 3pt, 4 asts, 2.5 rbs, 1 stl, 52%fg, 79%ft.I&#8217;m not expecting him to keep up that pace, but I do think he&#8217;ll improve throughout the year. How long before he gets consistent? He&#8217;s on a roller-coaster team, and will have Jack competing for minutes. Luckily Nate likes to play the both at the same time. Is he a better pickup than Jalen Rose,Raja Bell, or Deshawn Stevenson. He has more upside, that&#8217;s for sure.
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