Comments on: Don’t Ignore the Bench http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/ A Fantasy Basketball Blog. Surprise. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:21:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Domo_kuun http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-745 Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:07:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-745 I give Caron Butler, Troy Murphy, and Kendrick Perkins. I get Brad Miller and Al Harrington. Is that a go or a hold-off until his thumb injury becomes clearer? I give Caron Butler, Troy Murphy, and Kendrick Perkins. I get Brad Miller and Al Harrington. Is that a go or a hold-off until his thumb injury becomes clearer?

]]> by: T-Plan http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-744 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:26:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-744 I'm with you on Biedrins. The Warriors desperately need a post threat on offense, because Troy Murphy prefers to chuck jump shots and the Foyle/Diogu combo simply isn't that good. Foyle never has been, and Ike is still figuring out the offense after missing time early due to injury. Plus, Montgomery is scared he'll hit the rookie wall and is limiting his minutes. Not to mention the TOs and fouls he gets when he does play. I already advised a friend to keep an eye on Biedrins. I actually like him better than all those "Hot Pickup" chumps everyone is clamoring for these days. To the K-Mart question, are you joking? Even gimpy, he's better and more solid than any of those speculative pickups. Those kind of guys are good for injury replacement or if you're finally cutting losses on a player who is busting. Given Martin's recent production, you can't drop him. I picked him up and expect him to stay healthy for the most part from here forward. Yeah I know about the risks, but you got him as a FREE AGENT! Great value off the wire . . . I’m with you on Biedrins. The Warriors desperately need a post threat on offense, because Troy Murphy prefers to chuck jump shots and the Foyle/Diogu combo simply isn’t that good. Foyle never has been, and Ike is still figuring out the offense after missing time early due to injury. Plus, Montgomery is scared he’ll hit the rookie wall and is limiting his minutes. Not to mention the TOs and fouls he gets when he does play.

I already advised a friend to keep an eye on Biedrins. I actually like him better than all those “Hot Pickup” chumps everyone is clamoring for these days.

To the K-Mart question, are you joking? Even gimpy, he’s better and more solid than any of those speculative pickups. Those kind of guys are good for injury replacement or if you’re finally cutting losses on a player who is busting. Given Martin’s recent production, you can’t drop him. I picked him up and expect him to stay healthy for the most part from here forward. Yeah I know about the risks, but you got him as a FREE AGENT! Great value off the wire . . .

]]> by: bublitchki http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-743 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:54:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-743 Biedrins update: Well, the GS/SA game is now over and Biedrins finished with a pretty decent 8 pts (4-4 shooting), 9 rebs (4 off), 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk and 4 TOs. A solid outing, especially in light of the fact that it was achieved against arguably the toughest defensive unit in the league. But the real number that stands out is 28. That's the number of minutes Biedrins played, as opposed to just 18 for Foyle and only 7 for December flavor-of-the-month, Diogu. Even more impressive when you realize that Montgomery left him out in the floor in the game's closing minutes with the outcome still very much in doubt. So, let's see: 28 minutes tonight, 32 the game before - or a 30 mpg average over the past two. Pretty incredible when you consider that his average minutes played for the season thus far is just 11. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, but it sure does look like Andris could well be establishing himself as THE man in the middle for the Warriors from here on out. Biedrins update:

Well, the GS/SA game is now over and Biedrins finished with a pretty decent 8 pts (4-4 shooting), 9 rebs (4 off), 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk and 4 TOs. A solid outing, especially in light of the fact that it was achieved against arguably the toughest defensive unit in the league.

But the real number that stands out is 28. That’s the number of minutes Biedrins played, as opposed to just 18 for Foyle and only 7 for December flavor-of-the-month, Diogu. Even more impressive when you realize that Montgomery left him out in the floor in the game’s closing minutes with the outcome still very much in doubt.

So, let’s see: 28 minutes tonight, 32 the game before - or a 30 mpg average over the past two. Pretty incredible when you consider that his average minutes played for the season thus far is just 11. Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself here, but it sure does look like Andris could well be establishing himself as THE man in the middle for the Warriors from here on out.

]]> by: bublitchki http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-742 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:17:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-742 Another emerging option at center is Andris Biedrins of Golden State. After being virtually ignored for the first half of the season in lieu of an ineffective Foyle or a green Diogu, he finally seems to have caught the eye of coach Mike Montgomery. Last night against the Sonics, he played 32 minutes and posted 16/8/3 with one steal and only one TO. In the first half tonight against a tough Spurs front line, he already has 6/4/1 with 1 steal and 1 TO in just 13 minutes. I know that I - as well as our esteemed hosts here at FBB - have been keeping a watchful eye on Biedrins, waiting eagerly for this day to come. I'm not sure that it's quite yet arrived as he could still wind up in a frustrating timeshare with Foyle/Diogu. Nevertheless, anyone looking for a potential upgrade at center would be well advised to keep this kid on their radar. Talk about "upside" - Biedrins is still only 19 and won't turn 20 until April! But if those early numbers are any indication, he may already be better than several centers who are several years his senior. Another emerging option at center is Andris Biedrins of Golden State.
After being virtually ignored for the first half of the season in lieu of an ineffective Foyle or a green Diogu, he finally seems to have caught the eye of coach Mike Montgomery.

Last night against the Sonics, he played 32 minutes and posted 16/8/3 with one steal and only one TO. In the first half tonight against a tough Spurs front line, he already has 6/4/1 with 1 steal and 1 TO in just 13 minutes.

I know that I - as well as our esteemed hosts here at FBB - have been keeping a watchful eye on Biedrins, waiting eagerly for this day to come. I’m not sure that it’s quite yet arrived as he could still wind up in a frustrating timeshare with Foyle/Diogu. Nevertheless, anyone looking for a potential upgrade at center would be well advised to keep this kid on their radar. Talk about “upside” - Biedrins is still only 19 and won’t turn 20 until April! But if those early numbers are any indication, he may already be better than several centers who are several years his senior.

]]> by: bv http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-741 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:39:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-741 al - do NOT drop k-mart for any of these guys. He is quite simply on a different level. When he gets a consistent 30-35 mpg he'll be a great value to your team. sure he'll be hurt now and then but his defensive numbers alone are reason enough to hold on to him. woods, jefferson, perkins ... they're all hot pickups right now but there are ALWAYS going to be hot pickups on the waiver wires. Martin is a surefire starter right now - you can't say that about the other three. al - do NOT drop k-mart for any of these guys. He is quite simply on a different level. When he gets a consistent 30-35 mpg he’ll be a great value to your team. sure he’ll be hurt now and then but his defensive numbers alone are reason enough to hold on to him. woods, jefferson, perkins … they’re all hot pickups right now but there are ALWAYS going to be hot pickups on the waiver wires. Martin is a surefire starter right now - you can’t say that about the other three.

]]> by: Jeremy http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-740 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:23:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-740 If you can get decent value in return for KMart then go ahead. A PF who has shaky knees, yet depends on explosiveness for his "game" is not a reliable guy in my opinion. I do think Camby may hurt Martin's overall production numbers, but who knows when either of them will go down again. Martin and Camby are the only really decent post players on the Nuggets, so they both will have value when the play. He might be one of those horses you have to ride until he falls down again. By that time there will be a whole new slew of "flavor of the week" players based on injuries and trades. BTW, I'd buy low on SAR right NOW. It just occured to me that with Miller out, he started the last game at Center. I don't know how your league works, but if Miller misses the next four games (which is likely IMO) then SAR could end up having Center eligibility, which would be pretty awesome in my opinion. If you can get decent value in return for KMart then go ahead. A PF who has shaky knees, yet depends on explosiveness for his “game” is not a reliable guy in my opinion. I do think Camby may hurt Martin’s overall production numbers, but who knows when either of them will go down again. Martin and Camby are the only really decent post players on the Nuggets, so they both will have value when the play.

He might be one of those horses you have to ride until he falls down again. By that time there will be a whole new slew of “flavor of the week” players based on injuries and trades.

BTW, I’d buy low on SAR right NOW. It just occured to me that with Miller out, he started the last game at Center. I don’t know how your league works, but if Miller misses the next four games (which is likely IMO) then SAR could end up having Center eligibility, which would be pretty awesome in my opinion.

]]> by: al http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-739 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:06:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-739 Hey i picked up Kenyon Martin off the wire after his owner finally succumbed to frustration. However since i've picked him up he's put up healthy numbers: 18pts, 6.6 boards, 1 block&steal, and shootin above 50%. i'm in a h2h daily league and so i do pretty much need max. production from all players on my roster. do you guys think martin with his health risks is worth droppin for any of the guys that have been the buzz around here for that past few days: woods, jefferson, perkins. none of them can fill up the stat sheet like martin can if he can stay healthy, but thats a pretty big IF. also with camby comin back in, how will that impact on k-marts numbers? any PFs i should be targettin to trade k-mart for? Hey i picked up Kenyon Martin off the wire after his owner finally succumbed to frustration. However since i’ve picked him up he’s put up healthy numbers: 18pts, 6.6 boards, 1 block&steal, and shootin above 50%.

i’m in a h2h daily league and so i do pretty much need max. production from all players on my roster.

do you guys think martin with his health risks is worth droppin for any of the guys that have been the buzz around here for that past few days: woods, jefferson, perkins. none of them can fill up the stat sheet like martin can if he can stay healthy, but thats a pretty big IF. also with camby comin back in, how will that impact on k-marts numbers? any PFs i should be targettin to trade k-mart for?

]]> by: Jeremy http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-738 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:29:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-738 As for Jefferson getting C-eligibility, I don't know. Yahoo! usually gives C-status to guys who start five games at the position and appear that they will be playing it long-term. I agree that he should have it, as he is just as tall as Perkins for crying out loud, but Perkins has technically been the starting center. I would like to pick Jefferson up too...I drafted him and have picked him back up once or twice this season already. But, my only spots to give up are Nocioni, Krstic and Woods. I'm lacking threes and like the prospect of Woods getting minutes, so that'll need to playout. Krstic has C-eligibility right now, so that definately is an advantage. As for Nocioni...if he only plays six minutes then I'll have to drop him, but if he gets 25 then he'll give 11/5 with a three pointer, which is nice to have. Jefferson does seem primed to breakout though (other than FT%). I could definately use the help in blocks too. I should note that I think the Bench is more important in head-2-head than in roto...at least in leagues where you "start" 10 players every day, because no one is ever "on the bench". You play everyone that you have room for on any given day because you need to maximize production. Thus, I can't keep someone on "the bench" based purely on speculation, as it will definately hurt me in the short run. Given that this is my first time playing fantasy sports, I think I'll be much more ready for my draft next year, as I don't think I'll be fortunate enough to claim Dalembert or Boris Diaw off waivers again! As for Jefferson getting C-eligibility, I don’t know. Yahoo! usually gives C-status to guys who start five games at the position and appear that they will be playing it long-term. I agree that he should have it, as he is just as tall as Perkins for crying out loud, but Perkins has technically been the starting center.

I would like to pick Jefferson up too…I drafted him and have picked him back up once or twice this season already. But, my only spots to give up are Nocioni, Krstic and Woods. I’m lacking threes and like the prospect of Woods getting minutes, so that’ll need to playout. Krstic has C-eligibility right now, so that definately is an advantage. As for Nocioni…if he only plays six minutes then I’ll have to drop him, but if he gets 25 then he’ll give 11/5 with a three pointer, which is nice to have. Jefferson does seem primed to breakout though (other than FT%).

I could definately use the help in blocks too.

I should note that I think the Bench is more important in head-2-head than in roto…at least in leagues where you “start” 10 players every day, because no one is ever “on the bench”. You play everyone that you have room for on any given day because you need to maximize production. Thus, I can’t keep someone on “the bench” based purely on speculation, as it will definately hurt me in the short run.

Given that this is my first time playing fantasy sports, I think I’ll be much more ready for my draft next year, as I don’t think I’ll be fortunate enough to claim Dalembert or Boris Diaw off waivers again!

]]> by: Domo_kuun http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-737 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:57:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-737 Would you take a risk of trading some of your good players for Brad Miller after his broken thumb? I REALLY need a center, but this injury scares me, especially considering the talent I stand to lose in the deal. Please help! Would you take a risk of trading some of your good players for Brad Miller after his broken thumb? I REALLY need a center, but this injury scares me, especially considering the talent I stand to lose in the deal. Please help!

]]> by: bublitchki http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-736 Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:40:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/02/dont-ignore-the-bench/#comment-736 Jefferson will have more value than Perkins if/when he gains center eligibility. Right now, he's a PF only and there are simply too many more reliable options at PF for Jefferson to have much value. Perkins, while arguably not as good a player as jefferson right now, is center eligible and is already a better option than many of the stiffs who call themselves centers in the NBA. Having said that, it might be a good idea to grab Jefferson now as center eligiblity might be coming soon. It seems that since the trade, he's been splitting time with Perkins at the center spot, so depending on what your league's eligibility rules are, he could be upgraded to center in the not too distant future. Should that happen, Jefferson would represnt one of the top 10 options at center, IMHO. Jefferson will have more value than Perkins if/when he gains center eligibility. Right now, he’s a PF only and there are simply too many more reliable options at PF for Jefferson to have much value. Perkins, while arguably not as good a player as jefferson right now, is center eligible and is already a better option than many of the stiffs who call themselves centers in the NBA.

Having said that, it might be a good idea to grab Jefferson now as center eligiblity might be coming soon. It seems that since the trade, he’s been splitting time with Perkins at the center spot, so depending on what your league’s eligibility rules are, he could be upgraded to center in the not too distant future. Should that happen, Jefferson would represnt one of the top 10 options at center, IMHO.

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