Comments on: Lessons http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/ A Fantasy Basketball Blog. Surprise. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:37:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: T-Plan http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-834 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:57:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-834 Hey JM, Miles won't improve on FT%; trust me because I owned him last season. He has never been good at it and you can't just turn it on mid-season. For TOs, expect those to stay high too. He gets good assists for his position, but that is a function of handling the ball a lot. Guys who handle the ball are more prone to TOs unless you're Steve Nash. I recommend you drop Granger and pick up Pietrus from Golden State. Great percentages, double-figure scoring that will continue (and he starts), good steals, and a lot of boards. Not great steals, but he'll be useful to your team. And he fits your needs very well. You won't find a guy with this value on the FA wire often this late in the season. Hope that helps Hey JM,

Miles won’t improve on FT%; trust me because I owned him last season. He has never been good at it and you can’t just turn it on mid-season.

For TOs, expect those to stay high too. He gets good assists for his position, but that is a function of handling the ball a lot. Guys who handle the ball are more prone to TOs unless you’re Steve Nash.

I recommend you drop Granger and pick up Pietrus from Golden State. Great percentages, double-figure scoring that will continue (and he starts), good steals, and a lot of boards. Not great steals, but he’ll be useful to your team. And he fits your needs very well. You won’t find a guy with this value on the FA wire often this late in the season.

Hope that helps

]]> by: JM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-833 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:55:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-833 T-plan, good points about D.Miles. I decided to drop him since Battie's production has fallen off recently. M.Kasun and P.Garrity are eating into his playing time, and if Cato ever returns, he will too. We start 2 centers in my league. Currently I've got Dalembert and Chandler as my starters. K.Perkins is on my bench. I think he's got more upside for the 2nd half compared to Battie, thus I decided to keep him & drop Battie. (I could've also dropped Granger, whose production has tanked as well, but I still want to give him some time, since he's young and the Pacers are still working out their rotations. So...I will keep Miles on my bench for now, and then try to trade him if his FT% and TO don't improve. Hopefully his great blks,stls will be attractive to someone. If not, i'll just drop him for the latest waiver wire wonder. T-plan,
good points about D.Miles.
I decided to drop him since Battie’s production has fallen off recently. M.Kasun and P.Garrity are eating into his playing time, and if Cato ever returns, he will too.

We start 2 centers in my league. Currently I’ve got Dalembert and Chandler as my starters. K.Perkins is on my bench. I think he’s got more upside for the 2nd half compared to Battie, thus I decided to keep him & drop Battie. (I could’ve also dropped Granger, whose production has tanked as well, but I still want to give him some time, since he’s young and the Pacers are still working out their rotations.

So…I will keep Miles on my bench for now, and then try to trade him if his FT% and TO don’t improve. Hopefully his great blks,stls will be attractive to someone. If not, i’ll just drop him for the latest waiver wire wonder.

]]> by: T-Plan http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-832 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:29:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-832 I completely disagree with you adding Miles for 2 reasons: 1. You don't need him. On 6+ attempts per game he'll certainly hurt you more than Battie. Don't overlook his steals and assists, which are the real assets he provides along with FG% and blocks. So, he combos big man and swing stats, while providing little to no 3s and trashing FT%. 2. He will be traded if Portland can pull it off. They really want to move him, and who knows where he'll go? Imagine if he goes to Dallas or Detroit - not good. But if he goes to Atlanta or Charlotte, really good. On the other hand, I agree with you adding if . . . 1. You do trade him 2. Your league will let you do a fair trade, and the other teams will negotiate (mine won't) 3. You're stacked with Centers and can afford to get better numbers from a GF. I'm also thinking about adding him, but of course my 3 most expendable players are hot right now (Eddie Jones, Hedo Turkoglu, Kenny Thomas) and undroppable. Also, I have G. Wallace about to return, who is essentiall Miles plus more steals/blocks/boards and less assists and FG%. Hmmm . . . I completely disagree with you adding Miles for 2 reasons:
1. You don’t need him. On 6+ attempts per game he’ll certainly hurt you more than Battie. Don’t overlook his steals and assists, which are the real assets he provides along with FG% and blocks. So, he combos big man and swing stats, while providing little to no 3s and trashing FT%.
2. He will be traded if Portland can pull it off. They really want to move him, and who knows where he’ll go? Imagine if he goes to Dallas or Detroit - not good. But if he goes to Atlanta or Charlotte, really good.

On the other hand, I agree with you adding if . . .
1. You do trade him
2. Your league will let you do a fair trade, and the other teams will negotiate (mine won’t)
3. You’re stacked with Centers and can afford to get better numbers from a GF.

I’m also thinking about adding him, but of course my 3 most expendable players are hot right now (Eddie Jones, Hedo Turkoglu, Kenny Thomas) and undroppable. Also, I have G. Wallace about to return, who is essentiall Miles plus more steals/blocks/boards and less assists and FG%. Hmmm . . .

]]> by: Jeremy http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-831 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:36:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-831 Miles will be more valuable than any of those other guys for sure...so that means get him and trade him if you need to. Portland is a fantasy horrorland, as no one gets consistant, large minutes. Miles should get his starting spot back and help fg, steals, etc. also, if those are your only three areas and miles hurts it more (not much more than Battie I think) then he'll only strengthen the other ones, which is imperitive in H2H Miles will be more valuable than any of those other guys for sure…so that means get him and trade him if you need to. Portland is a fantasy horrorland, as no one gets consistant, large minutes. Miles should get his starting spot back and help fg, steals, etc.

also, if those are your only three areas and miles hurts it more (not much more than Battie I think) then he’ll only strengthen the other ones, which is imperitive in H2H

]]> by: JM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-830 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:03:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-830 Darius Miles unexpectedly played tonight. Is it worth it to pick him up in a 12-team, 9-cat roto league. I would likely drop Tony Battie. Before he went down with the knee injury he was getting great pts, rebs, stls, blks but TERRIBLE FT% and TO. 18 pts,6 rebs, 1.3 stls, 1.5 blks, 3.5 TO, 55%FT (7 att/game) Do you think he may improve on his TO and FT% in the second half of the season? Overall, I"m in first place in my league right now. The categories I need the most help in are TO,FT% and 3's. Since Miles doesn't help in any of those categories, it makes me reluctant to add him. Maybe it's worth adding him for his potential trade value? Other guys I'm considering adding: K. Van Horn, K. Snyder, B.Cook (all get good amount of 3's w/low TO - except for Snyder) Darius Miles unexpectedly played tonight. Is it worth it to pick him up in a 12-team, 9-cat roto league.

I would likely drop Tony Battie.

Before he went down with the knee injury he was getting great pts, rebs, stls, blks
but TERRIBLE FT% and TO.
18 pts,6 rebs, 1.3 stls, 1.5 blks, 3.5 TO, 55%FT (7 att/game)

Do you think he may improve on his TO and FT% in the second half of the season?

Overall, I”m in first place in my league right now. The categories I need the most help in are TO,FT% and 3’s. Since Miles doesn’t help in any of those categories, it makes me reluctant to add him.

Maybe it’s worth adding him for his potential trade value?

Other guys I’m considering adding: K. Van Horn, K. Snyder, B.Cook (all get good amount of 3’s w/low TO - except for Snyder)

]]> by: JM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-829 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:46:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-829 Rich, good point about cumulative stats vs per game stats. If you look at cumulative stats for Centers in 9-cat legues - Bosh and Rasheed blow away everybody else by a significant margin. The next tier of centers - Okur,Miller,Ilgauskas,B.Wallace, Duncan and Camby have all had fairly pretty similar value (for cumulative stats). In 8-cat (no TO) leagues, Bosh is the clear cumulative #1, and the next tier - Rasheed, Miller, Ilgauskas, Duncan, Okur, are all relatively close together. Rich,
good point about cumulative stats vs per game stats.

If you look at cumulative stats for Centers in 9-cat legues - Bosh and Rasheed blow away everybody else by a significant margin.

The next tier of centers - Okur,Miller,Ilgauskas,B.Wallace, Duncan and Camby have all had fairly pretty similar value (for cumulative stats).

In 8-cat (no TO) leagues, Bosh is the clear cumulative #1, and the next tier - Rasheed, Miller, Ilgauskas, Duncan, Okur, are all relatively close together.

]]> by: Rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-828 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:09:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-828 I agree with your points, dm and bv, but all I'm saying is Duncan seems to take alot of the criticism for what might happen and none of the credit for what does happen. Sure there's a risk he might miss some games later this season but the reality is he hasn't yet and noone gives him credit for being one of maybe 10 guys who have only missed one game all year (and for the flu, no less) And yes, his numbers aren't what they were but he's one of what, maybe 5 guys who can give you 20pts 10rebs 2 blocks shooting 50% on a nightly basis. And with center eligibilty to boot. He may not be a top 5 player anymore but give him credit for being a very good one. As for JM's rankings my whole point is that TD can't be ranked lower in overall value to one's team (at THIS point in the season)than Camby, Dalembert, Yao, Brad, etc. beacause all of those players have missed significant time while TD actually makes it on the court every single night. The only guys who I agree are having signifcantly more valuable seasons are Bosh and Sheed. If/when Duncan does miss a significant number of games later this season, then it's a different story. Of coure, after I write this I am now sure he will miss 25 of the next 30 games =) I agree with your points, dm and bv, but all I’m saying is Duncan seems to take alot of the criticism for what might happen and none of the credit for what does happen.
Sure there’s a risk he might miss some games later this season but the reality is he hasn’t yet and noone gives him credit for being one of maybe 10 guys who have only missed one game all year (and for the flu, no less) And yes, his numbers aren’t what they were but he’s one of what, maybe 5 guys who can give you 20pts 10rebs 2 blocks shooting 50% on a nightly basis. And with center eligibilty to boot. He may not be a top 5 player anymore but give him credit for being a very good one.
As for JM’s rankings my whole point is that TD can’t be ranked lower in overall value to one’s team (at THIS point in the season)than Camby, Dalembert, Yao, Brad, etc. beacause all of those players have missed significant time while TD actually makes it on the court every single night. The only guys who I agree are having signifcantly more valuable seasons are Bosh and Sheed.
If/when Duncan does miss a significant number of games later this season, then it’s a different story. Of coure, after I write this I am now sure he will miss 25 of the next 30 games =)

]]> by: Charlie http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-827 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:51:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-827 Stop talking about Andre Kirilenko. Stop it now. As a proud and superstitious owner, please stop using "Andre", "Kirilenko", and "injury" in the same sentence. Let's be smart about this guys. Even if you don't own him, you know you like seeing highlights of the Russian Freak work his multi-category magic. So just let sleeping dos lie. Stop talking about Andre Kirilenko. Stop it now. As a proud and superstitious owner, please stop using “Andre”, “Kirilenko”, and “injury” in the same sentence. Let’s be smart about this guys. Even if you don’t own him, you know you like seeing highlights of the Russian Freak work his multi-category magic. So just let sleeping dos lie.

]]> by: DM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-826 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:50:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-826 Yes, I was talking about "real life" as pertains to LeBron and Dwyane. LeBron is clearly superior in fantasy. Dude can't have his team losing at home to the Warriors, though. Yes, I was talking about “real life” as pertains to LeBron and Dwyane. LeBron is clearly superior in fantasy. Dude can’t have his team losing at home to the Warriors, though.

]]> by: JM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-825 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:38:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/02/13/lessons/#comment-825 I agree that Duncan has been sub-par this year. In 9-category leagues he's currently the 8th-ranked Center. (#32 overall player) For context, here's the list of the top 10 centers (based on per game production, not season totals): 1.M.Camby 2.R.Wallace 3.C.Bosh 4.Y.Ming 5.S.Dalembert 6.B.Miller 7.M.Okur 8.T.Duncan 9.B.Wallace 10.Z.Ilgauskas If your league doesn't count TO, than Duncan would move up to #5 ranked Center (#25 overall player). Either way, he's still a disappoinment for a First-round pick. I agree that Duncan has been sub-par this year. In 9-category leagues he’s currently the 8th-ranked Center. (#32 overall player)
For context, here’s the list of the top 10 centers (based on per game production, not season totals):
1.M.Camby
2.R.Wallace
3.C.Bosh
4.Y.Ming
5.S.Dalembert
6.B.Miller
7.M.Okur
8.T.Duncan
9.B.Wallace
10.Z.Ilgauskas

If your league doesn’t count TO, than Duncan would move up to #5 ranked Center (#25 overall player). Either way, he’s still a disappoinment for a First-round pick.

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