Rookie Revue

It’s pretty easy to get over-excited about early-season performances from veterans who are sure to return to form (Rasheed Wallace, anyone?).  But rookies who get off to a hot start are a totally different matter.  Rookies play a completely different game in the NBA than they did in college, and right now we’re learning everything we can about these guys.  With almost a full week under our belts I thought it would be a good idea to check in on our rookie class and see who’s worth playing, owning, or dumping.

Every Day Starters

Brandon Roy, G, POR - Three games in, Roy had been as good as advertised.  He’d seen over 35 mpg and seemed to be only safe bet in the Portland backcourt.  We can’t say it enough - here at FBB we preach minutes over everything else, and until last night, Roy was delivering in that category.  Last night was a different story, as Roy had his first bad game, saw only 14 minutes and came out complaining of a sore Achilles.  Be careful - just like we don’t know much about how these guys will look on the stat sheet, we also don’t know how well they play through injuries.  Also Of concern is his lack of any defensive stats, but those should come.  He’s shooting great from the stripe and at least attempting shots from long range.  If healthy, Roy is a must-start despite his FG% woes, and is living up to his ROY hype so far.

Adam Morrison, F, CHA - Remember what we said about minutes?  Morrison and Roy are the only guys seeing over 30 mpg (actually, the only ones seeing over 25) and it’s no coincidence that we can’t recommend sitting them.  Morrison is what we thought he would be - an all-offense, no-anything else kinda guy.  Still, he’s looked comfortable from three point range and should be good for at least 15 and 2 threes a night, and you can’t sit numbers like that.

Rudy Gay, F, MEM - I know, right now Gay is not in the same class as the other two guys.  Plus, I have him on my squad so there’s no way I can be objective.  Gay is going to be very much like Charlie Villanueva last year - he is certainly going to have his down games, but you just have to start him every night.  Trying to guess which games he’ll have 4 blocks and which ones he’ll have 4 points is just going to be impossible.  But his ability to contribute in both defensive categories as well as from long range means you can’t bench him.  He’ll have his ups and downs but in the end he’ll average out just fine.  I hope.

Worth A Bench Spot
Let me take a second to talk about bench spots.  If you have a rookie on your bench, it had better be because you forsee him being a fantasy starter sometime soon.  Guys like Andrea Bargnani are just too far away.  Guys like Marcus Williams need established starters to get hurt.  And guys like Ty Thomas just won’t see the consistent minutes they need to be valuable.  Here are guys worth a bench spot now because it’s realistic to think they’ll have value in the near future:

Rajon Rondo, G, BOS - Rondo may not be worth playing right now but he’s come out of the blocks pretty well and could be earning himself a starting spot sometime soon.  It’s not like Sebastian Telfair has a death grip on it.  Rondo has so far reminded me of TJ Ford, but with a better spine.

Craig Smith, F, MIN - 10, 16, 22.  That’s a minutes trend that I liked over his first three games.  He fell to 14 last last night but that looked to be foul-trouble related.  He’s obviously doing something that the T-Wolves like, and who am I to argue?  I’m not sold that he’ll have value down the line, but he’s certainly worth a bench spot now until he proves otherwise.

Worth Keeping an Eye On
Jorge Garbajosa, F, TOR
- Garbajosa has been a disaster from the floor so far, but still has seen 20 mpg and has shown some positive signs - he looks to be a hawk when it comes to steals, and he’s not averse to threes.  If he starts shooting better he could start earning more minutes.  He’s likely sitting on your waiver wire, but the second he has a good game he’ll be worth picking up.

LaMarcus Aldridge, F, POR - As Joel Przybilla and Jamaal Magloire fight to stay on the bench, Aldridge will be given every opportunity to grab minutes at C when he returns.  Again, not worth a spot on your roster yet, but upon his return?  Perhaps.

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Terrance
November 7th, 2006 9:41 am

this post doesnt have much to do with the topic. i wanted to point out that im as patient as they come in fantasy basketball, i have learned to be patient from some earlier screwjobs i gave myself. i wanted to point out how hard it is to be patient this season with jameer friggin nelson! I usually never get too concerned when a player gets off to a slow start, only when they START LOSING MINUTES DOWN THE STRETCH IN THE 4TH QUARTER TO CARLOS ARROYO!!!

Last night nelson watched arroyo get the valuable minutes down the stretch in a tight game with washington. im hoping arroyo doesnt turn into an earl watson and rob 4th quarter minutes from my man nelson. looks like it may happen with nelson avg 5 TO/G!!!

also, id like to ask a Q here: Danny Granger or Sean May? I need frontcourt help and the pacers are abandoning small ball for now. but does granger still have more value than sean may?

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arpit
November 7th, 2006 11:37 am

is etan thomas a good pick up?

if so who should i drop, i have these guys on my bench. foye, wells, jarret jack. i’m leaning towards jack but i don’t know

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bv
November 7th, 2006 11:42 am

arpit: yes, etan thomas is a good pickup. I would drop foye for him, but you knew that already :)

terrance: i still think that over the course of the season granger will be the better play.

also, carlos arroyo completely ruined a perfectly good monday evening for me, that jerk.

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November 7th, 2006 12:07 pm

Terrance: I personally would not drop Granger for May. Granger has had a rough start but it’s only 3 games. He’s still the starter (for now) and can contribute in so many categories that even if he is benched he still has value. May is a good pickup given the Brezec situation but unless you really need boards I’d hold on to Granger for now.

arpit: Don’t drop Jack!!! It appears Brandon Roy might have a heel problem which could linger. I’d probably keep Wells over Foye because Bonzi is more of a proven guy and I’m not sure Foye is ever going to get a lot of shots with KG, Ricky Davis, and Mike James around, not that Trenton Hassell has been lighting the world on fire in front of him.

As far as Thomas, he can board when he gets the minutes and he’ll chip in some blocks, but he doesn’t do much else, except clang free throws off the iron. It does sound like Brendan Haywood is digruntled and may be on his way out so Thomas should be getting plenty of minutes in the short term. If you need boards or someone to fill a C spot, dropping Foye for Thomas isn’t a bad idea.

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OB
November 7th, 2006 1:04 pm

What is Kaman’s future. I traded away chandler and rose for Kaman yesterday. I believe in Kaman. Do you?

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Terrance
November 7th, 2006 2:07 pm

arpit, yeah man, dont drop jack!!!! drop foye if anyone, i know yr team is deep, but dont drop jack!

OB- i like yr trade, got rid of chandler who will be descent this season and rose who is a non factor and should be in the FA anyways. so chandler for kaman straight up, id take teh kaman side of that deal.

my team and Q’s

Kevin Garnett SF,PF
Joe Johnson PG,SG
Dwight Howard PF
Kirk Hinrich PG,SG
Raymond Felton PG
Jameer Nelson PG
Nenad Krstic PF,C
Ricky Davis SG,SF
Kevin Martin SG
Mo Williams PG
Danny Granger SF PF
Nene Hilario PF,C
Earl Watson PG

ok, so i need help up front. all i have is howard and garnett. whats everyones opinion on trading hinrich for ben wallace?

hinrich has name recognition and should interest the other manager. i personally think im giving up too much to get ben wallace, but he would help my team more than hinrich would. plus, i have several decent PG or high assists swingmen like johnson and garnett.

h2h-9 cat

ben wallace would lock me down in reb, right? please suggest any other big men that would help…david west? jamison?

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Jeremy
November 7th, 2006 3:27 pm

I too am looking for help up front and am looking towards Jamison or West, both owned by the same guy. Unfortunately, all of the decent mid-tier PFs are playing out of their mind right now (Randolph, Jamison, West, Villanueva) and thus they will command too much in trade value for the time being. I think I might have to hold pat and wait till an injury or a slow down so that I can get appropriate value for one of them.

But….as each day goes on, more and more of my sleepers go off the board. Jarret Jack just got pulled off of FA, and it is quite annoying because I was hoping he’d be out there for a while longer.

Is Zaza Pachulia for David West too offensive? Right now Zaza is playing really well, and while I know it will stop at some point, he is Center eligible. I’ve posted my team in other comment threads, and I really need a solid big man, because Kaman and Camby can’t do it all by themselves with a ton of guards.

How mad am I for passing on Charlie Villanueva for Jameer Nelson right now!!!

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Terrance
November 7th, 2006 3:49 pm

yeah nelson is biting me in the ass too! just hold steady, nelson doesnt strike me as a flop. but villenueva wouldve been exactly what we both needed lol.

and yeah, dont bother with zaza, even if it is a “lets get the trade talks going” kind of deal. id put you on the black list for that offer :) .

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Jeremy
November 7th, 2006 4:03 pm

Well I offered him Larry Hughes and Kaman for West and Jamison…and he considered it until Jamison blew up in yet another game. He likes Hughes quite a bit and needs a center. Maybe I can find some paring for that.

Me:

Partial’s Playmakers
1. (1) LeBron James
2. (20) Paul Pierce
3. (21) Joe Johnson
4. (40) Marcus Camby
5. (41) Mike Bibby
6. (60) Chris Kaman
7. (61) Jameer Nelson
8. (80) Larry Hughes
9. (81) Darko Milicic
10. (100) Zaza Pachulia
11. (101) Andre Miller
12. (120) Kevin Martin
13. (121) Nenad Krstic
14. (140) Deron Williams
15. (141) Chris Wilcox

Him:

1. (5) Kobe Bryant
2. (16) Chris Bosh
3. (25) Jason Kidd
4. (36) Lamar Odom
5. (45) Antawn Jamison
6. (56) Mike James
7. (65) David West
8. (76) Josh Howard
9. (85) Adam Morrison
10. (96) Leandro Barbosa
11. (105) Luol Deng
12. (116) Jarret Jack (dropped Damon Stoudamire).
13. (125) Stephen Jackson
14. (136) Udonis Haslem
15. (145) Tony Battie

He obviously needs a Center, which I have quite a few players that work. I’m a bit partial to Krstic, because he’s the only decent big on his entire team and should continue to get burn and continue all year. Zaza…when Marvin gets back him minutes could take a slight hit, and I’m not super high on Wilcox either.

What kind of trade would work to get David West or Jamison. I think that Villanueva and Randolph are a bit too hot right now.

Also of note, this is a fraternity league and I live with all of the other people in the league. I doubt I’ll get “blacklisted”, but I obviously don’t want to make any rediculous trade offers either.

Thanks.

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Jeremy
November 7th, 2006 4:13 pm

How about Larry Hughes and Zaza Pachulia for David West and Luol Deng? How do you guys feel about that one.

I’m biting my lip and hoping that Hughes explodes tonight. The owner, I know, is a sentimental fan of Hughes, and I think I might be able to get a bit more value for him than I should (ala Jamison). If I could swing that trade then I wouldn’t be losing anything really (including 3’s, which I still believe that I am week in). I wouldn’t really like having a Chicago Bull, but I think Deng may be underrated a bit.

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November 7th, 2006 8:59 pm

hey guys, quick question. Smush Parker hasn’t been doing much for me, and he’s my worst player. I’m contemplating dropping him for Kenny Thomas, Mark Blount, or Monta Ellis, should I do it? This is a 12 cat. H2H league, we count FTM and FGM. I can use some help on the boards and I have plenty of steals. Assists can use a little help too but Smush haven’t been doing much distributing lately anyways…

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November 8th, 2006 12:46 am

Biedrins vs Darko?
Any thoughts. I’m considering dropping Darko for Biedrins. I want to be patient with Darko, but Biedrins is definitely outperforming him thus far - specifically in blocks, %’s and minutes:

Biedrins: 24 min, 7.6 pts,6.4 reb, 0.8 stls, 2.6 blks, 1.2 TO, 81%FG, 57%FT

Darko: 19 min, 7.8 pts, 5.8 reb, 0.5 stls, 1.3 blks, 1.3TO, 40%FG, 46%FT

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Jeremy
November 8th, 2006 1:52 am

I have been wondering the same question. The funny thing is, that if Darko was out on the wire, he’d be snatched up immediately.

The one concern I have about Biedrins is that he is playing in GS, and honestly who knows what the hell they are going to do this year. At first they were going to start Troy Murphy at C…and today he only plays 20 minutes. Ike Diogu, despite an ankle sprain today, is also a VERY effective player that will be nipping at playing time at the C as well. Furtherore, it seems like there is a propensity both on this team and in the league in general to run more with small lineups, such that players like Monta Ellis get 39 minutes of burn.

Anyways, that is definately a situation to watch, but Biedrins certainly won’t continue to average 81%FG nor will he get 6 blks like he did tonight.

I’m in a similar situation myself. I have low-tier centers Wilcox, Krstic, and Zaza and I’m having trouble being happy with them. Zaza is playing well but I’m sure that it is more of an illusion…he played really well at the beginning of last season too…and I’m not sold on Wilcox but 12/8 isn’t too bad and it’s hard to take a flyer on someone like Andrew Bynum knowing Mihm and Kwame are on their way back…but even then who knows what might happen…he’s playing oh so well right now.

what i will say is that I’m a Baron Davis injury away from taking Monta Ellis becasue he’ll be oh so valuable then.

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