The Center Disappearing Act

I’ve been noticing a trend in the box scores lately.  You remember how there used to be a Center on the court at all times?  Well not anymore.  The “small lineup” can be viewed two ways.  In one, you’re basically playing no center, and instead playing some combo of guards and forwards.  In another, one of the forwards is the de facto “center” even though, really, they’re not playing like one, but somebody has to be in the middle and so that guy is the center.

Unfortunately, right now, it looks like for fantasy purposes you have to look at it the first way.  That means that at an already-thin position, you’re seeing minutes disappearing into thin air right before your eyes.  Let’s take a look at a couple of monday night’s games to show you what I mean:

Portland vs. LA Clippers:  In this game, Portland was dealing with major injury issues at Center, and Jamaal Magloire was the only guy who qualified at C who was active.  Nonetheless, Magloire only played 22 minutes, with the remaining 26 minutes available at C disappearing.  For the Clippers, Chris Kaman started at C, and played 31 minutes.  Paul Davis, Aaron Williams, and Zeljko Rebraca also qualify at C, but none played.  Another 17 minutes up in smoke.

Sacramento vs. Minnesota: Sacramento, like Portland, is dealing with major injury issues at C.  But rather than pulling a big man off the street and plugging him in the lineup, the Kings simply went small - and won.  The Kings managed to play a full game without a single minute being logged by either of their qualified C’s, Vitaly Potapenko and Brad Miller.  Granted, Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Kenny Thomas played “center” most of the game, but they won’t qualify there for at least another week or two.  48 available center minutes, none used.  On the Timberwolves, Mark Blount played 34 minutes, while Mark Madsen, Eddie Griffin and Vin Baker stayed off the court.  Another 12 minutes were lost into the center abyss.

So, in those two games, there were 192 available C minutes, and only 87 were used - a measley 45%.  Now, this isn’t always the case - for example, Utah played Mehmet Okur and Carlos Boozer a combined 73 minutes.  But it’s happening more often than not - Detroit gave it’s “only center” Nazr Mohammed just 18 minutes, while Dallas saw C’s DeSagana Diop and Erik Dampier combine for only 26.

So what does this phenomenon mean?  More specifically, what does it mean for those of us in leagues where we start 2 centers?  Well, obviously, the first thing it means is that centers could be even more tough to find if this trend continues.  But you don’t need me to tell you that a good center is hard to find.  Is there anything that this trend could do to HELP your team?

Well, yes - maybe.  The other thing that it COULD mean is that maybe some other folks will start qualifying at C.  I mean, there’s five guys out there on the court, right?  And so someone has to qualify as a C, right?  And qualifying at C gives a guy a boost in value.  So let’s look at who COULD see a boost in value.  If you think they’ll qualify at C eventually, that might make them more valuable to you than they are to their owners, who aren’t expecting that:

Already sweet, could be sweeter: Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Dwight Howard, Drew Gooden, Udonis Haslem, Zack Randolph.

Just so-so now, but could be sweet: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Al Jefferson, Kenon Martin.

This would make them worth owning, probably: Kenny Thomas, Shelden Williams, Antonio McDyess.

 So, the question is, are these guys going to qualify at C?  Given how arbitrary positions are assigned in the fantasy world, it’s tough to say.  I’m certainly not going to make any predictions.  But it’s definitely going to be a trend worth watching this season.

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bublitchki
November 8th, 2006 10:42 am

Speaking of centers…

Andrew Bynum:

Does he retain his value once Kwame & Mihm return?

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Jeremy
November 8th, 2006 11:12 am

I have the same question bublitchki. I think that if he continues to be effective, Bynum could get 25 minutes per game. Kwame doesn’t bring a ton to the table, and Mihm is servicable at best. It seems like Bynum has the talent…I didn’t see the last game but I heard he was the reason they won.

Overall, his confidence should be sky high right now and I already dropped Chris Wilcox hedging that he’ll be alright…that other LA centers will get injured again or might log some of their minutes at backup PF as well.

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MIKE
November 8th, 2006 11:34 am

Speak of Centers — what do you think of Ilgauskus?

I received an offer of Tyson Chandler and Tony Parker FOR Ilgauskus and Mike Miller. I have a lot of PGs (Bibby, Baron Davis, and Deron Williams), but seemed to be decent value.

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DM
November 8th, 2006 12:07 pm

What do the Lakers have to lose by sticking with Bynum? He’s not a rookie, but he may as well be, so there will certainly be ups and downs. But Chris Mihm might be out for a long while still. This is one of those injuries that’s been lingering for a while. Kwame Brown is still Kwame Brown … he showed promise at the end of last season, but Bynum’s a lot younger and has already shown far superior skills. It’s not time to annoint Bynum as a superstar, but I could certainly see him continuing to be the starter in LA for a while this season.

I’m not big on Ilgauskas this year and nothing that’s happened so far has changed that. Big Z hasn’t topped 28 minutes this year and saw just 24 in last night’s OT loss to Atlanta. That said, I’m not sure I’d do that deal. Chandler’s rebounds only and I still like Mike Miller a lot over the next month or so.

05
November 8th, 2006 12:31 pm

OK, I am in the Bynum can’t maintain his current value camp. First off, he’s shooting a ludicrous 68% that is impossible to keep up.

Second, I know it’s hard to trust Kwame but he seemed to make a real change in his game last year and he put up great numbers down the stretch and in the playoffs - in fact, he was playing a lot like Bynum is now. He’s not exactly an old man at 24, either.

Plus, you’ve got Turiaf who has looked good when he’s in there and Mihm who will eventually need his minutes as well.

Watching him play, Bynum looks good and will continue to get minutes, but I don’t think his value can get any higher than it is right now.

MIKE - The Ilgauskas side wins that deal. “Z” is on the downside of his career but I still think he’s among the better fantasy centers as long as he stays healthy (don’t ignore his FT%!) while Chandler is several tiers below him and is very limited in his contributions.

I’m not a big Parker guy even though he has come out of the gates on fire; he’s definitely a good player (and his great FG% would help balance out the spray gun that is B-Diddy), but the lack of 3s has always bothered me and in 9-cat leagues he’s definitely a TO liability. Miller, meanwhile, has always been a solid contributor and will likely have a career year with Gasol out for so long.

Needless to say, if you’re the side with Ilgauskas/Miller, I wouldn’t do the deal.

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Jeremy
November 8th, 2006 1:11 pm

The question with Bynum is if he’ll continue to get 20-25 minutes, as he has been effective in that time period. I suppose there is really nothing to suggest that he’ll see 30 mpg, as he isn’t playing that currently, but if continues on the tear that he’s doing, then that wouldn’t be impossible and his stats could increase yet again. Overall, I figure he’s worth a flyer for Chris Wilcox, who was my last round pick and this will dissappoint due to having a new contract and guaranteed money, as well as the timeshare he has with Nick Collison.

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bv
November 8th, 2006 1:24 pm

Bynum may have been pretty good so far but the real threat to him isn’t Kwame, it’s Kobe. Kobe still doesn’t have his game together yet and the offense isn’t running through him as much as it will. Who knows how involved Bynum will be when Kobe takes the riens? I’m a Bynum owner but I haven’t been able to put him in my starting lineup yet … i’m going to need to see some consistency and some 30+ minute games first.

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JM
November 8th, 2006 1:50 pm

Kobe (thus far) has been playing unselfishly and is trusting in his teammates more than in past seasons. As long as the Lakers keep winning with that formula, I think it bodes well for his teammates fantasy value, specifically Andrew Bynum and Luke Walton.

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TJk
November 8th, 2006 3:37 pm

I’m in a keeper league, and I have to say that Bynum’s start has me wanting to go after the lucky SOB that picked him off waivers, and hard; I know it’s really, really early, but what do people think of moving a significant-but-suddenly-aging asset (say Z, or Manu Ginobili) for this kid?

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Jeremy
November 8th, 2006 5:04 pm

I think it probably depends on how deep your bench is for the sleeper to pick up. If you grab Bynum now, what pick will he cost you next year?

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Jeremy
November 8th, 2006 5:13 pm

First off, I currently have a trade pending. It would be me sending Zaza Pachulia and Larry Hughes for Luol Deng and David West. I need a solid PF and I think it is a pretty fair trade on both ends…what do you guys think?

Secondly, I noticed that there is another team in the league with only 2 centers, one of whom is Primoz Brezec and injured. The other is Jeff Foster. I obviously have some good Center talent, but if I get rid of Zaza in the first trade and then move another center to the second, would that be too much. Here is my roster vs. the guy I’m trying to trade with:

Me:

1. (1) LeBron James F
2. (20) Paul Pierce G,F
3. (21) Joe Johnson PG
4. (40) Marcus Camby C
5. (41) Mike Bibby PG
6. (60) Chris Kaman C
7. (61) Jameer Nelson PG
8. (80) Larry Hughes G
9. (81) Darko Milicic PF,C
10. (100) Zaza Pachulia PF,C
11. (101) Andre Miller PG
12. (120) Kevin Martin G
13. (121) Nenad Krstic PF,C
14. (140) Deron Williams PG
15. (141) * Andrew Bynum (Dropped Wilcox)

Him:

Tony Parker,
Tracy McGrady
Delonte West,
Elton Brand,
Vlad Radmonivich,
Richard Jefferson,
Primoz Brezec,
Jeff Foster,
Raymond Felton,
Earl Watson,
Eddie Jordan,
Jason Richardson,
Chris Paul,
Andres Nocioni

__________

Given the weak early play of Richardson and McGrady, is this a potential buy-low situation? Would you move someone, say Chris Kaman, for TMac or Jason Richardson in return? This would make me weak at center, but as long as I have guys who are eligible (Camby, Bynum, Krstic, Darko) then I think that I’ll be alright.

Anyways, is that a trade that seems unreasonable. Obviously his center situation is horrible, with one of them being injured. A lot of the hot hands (such as Etan Thomas and Bynum) are already picked up (though I dropped Wilcox onto waiver).

Any advice is appreciated. I’m thinking of trying Kaman for Richardson because I’d like to get some treys, but I’m worried about the minutes situation in Golden State because Don Nelson’s rotation has been wacky and very inconsistent so far.

Thanks for any advice in advance.

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November 8th, 2006 5:55 pm

Jeremy: I like the Zaza/Hughes trade for Deng/West. I’m not a big fan of Zaza; he’s just not that great in the categories where you need your big men to excel (FG%, Blks, Rebs) and I think you’d be selling high on both he and Hughes, who I expect to break down at some point.

To me, West is by far the best player in the deal and I think he’ll keep it up with Chris Paul around to dish it to him and spread the floor. Deng has also looked good so far and while you can’t expect a ton of consistency in a Skiles rotation, I think he’s a nice add as well.

You’re definitely very deep at C so if you want to make another move, you could. However, I don’t see J-Rich as a buy-low situation. The news about his knee lately is really disturbing, and I worry he could be shut down for good in the not-too-distant future. T-Mac (risky), Jefferson, and Felton could be good buy-low candidates on his roster.

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November 8th, 2006 10:53 pm

Anyone notice the continuing story of Luke Walton’s breakout season.
His line tonight:

22 pts, 4 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk, 2 3pt, 8/16 FG, 0 TO, 36 min

I can’t express how satsified I am having picked him up off waivers a couple days ago.

At the moment, he’s #32 in 9-cat leagues at basketballmonster.com. Ahead of everyone on my team aside from Arenas, Rashard,Bosh and Kevin Martin.

Obviously his ranking will come down some when his hot shooting cools off, (he’s currenlty shooting an absurd 58.7%FG) but I think his all around game could keep him in the top 50-75 at the end of the year, which would be excellent for a waiver wire pickup.

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Francesc
November 9th, 2006 4:14 am

Speaking of Walton … i’m in a league in which i could pick him up, but then would have to keep him all season long (specific rules in that league).

Should i do it? Will he be worth owning all season long, or he’s just on one of those situations where he might be valuable for a while until Radmanovic gets his place in the starting lineup?

Keep up the good work guys!

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bv
November 9th, 2006 7:15 am

francesc - it looks like you’ve got some rules that we’re unfamiliar with! walton may not be a great value all year long but he’s got a better chance of it than, say, bynum.

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