Roster Management: Manning the Bench

While there’s a ton of attention paid to starters this early in the year, the odds are that the majority of the moves that you make will be affecting your bench more than anything else.  Most waiver wire pickups involve bench players, so I thought it would be worth discussing how you should look at organizing your bench.

Most leagues have a varying amount of bench spots, but regardless of how many spots you have there are 2 roles that should be filled on any bench:

Role #1 - The fill-in starter.  This is a guy who generally isn’t worth starting but can be used in a pinch.  They may be unreliable but they’ll have their share of decent games.  Good examples in a 12×13 league like ours are guys like Matt Harpring, Mark Blount, even a guy like Darko Milicic.  It’s also important that this guy fits with your roster so that if anyone goes down he or one of your utility guys can fill in at their position.

Role #2 - The garbage spot.  No, this isn’t reserved for Jorge Garbajosa, but he’s exactly the kind of player this spot should be used on.  This spot is absolutely integral to fantasy success because without it, you’ve got the potential to miss out on the next big pick-up.  We get a ton of comments that say something along the lines of, “I really want to pick up player X, but I can’t drop players Y or Z to get him!”  This is why you have a garbage spot.  If the 12th and 13th players on your roster are too valuable to drop, than you need to package them in a deal to upgrade a spot on your starting roster.  This spot is why you wake up every morning and check the box scores and find out who’s been hurt and who’s filling in for him.  Without this spot you’re going to miss out on guys like Monta Ellis, Tyronne Lue, even someone like David Lee, who can provide some serious short-term help to your squad and even have a chance to be mainstays on your roster throughout the season.  These guys can make your fantasy season - if your roster has room for them.

The rest of your bench can be used a couple of different ways.  Obviously, injured guys who are normally sure-thing starters are going to need a spot on your bench.  But i want to talk about a pitfall that a number of teams fall into.  They end up with a couple of different guys that all could fill that “Role #1,” all who aren’t really starters but could conceivably fill in for a game or two.  However, unless you’ve got a bunch of injury risks on your team, having more than one of those guys is a total waste of a roster spot.  Instead, you shuld focus on guys who have a good chance of being start-able in the NEAR FUTURE.  Let’s discuss the three other categories of bench candidates and give examples of good ones and bad ones:

The Injured Marginal Starter: Some guys are not valuable to warrant a bench spot if they’re going to be out for, say, two months.  But as those two months wear down, their value slowly improves and eventually it’s worth picking them up before they’re back on the court.  So while Pau Gasol isn’t going to be found on any waiver wires simply because he’s too good when healthy, utility-type guys can and will be dropped when hurt, and possibly picked up before their return.

A good example is a move that DM made yesterday (and which I’m sure he’ll discuss more in his next Transaction Reaction), dropping the injured Joel Przybilla, who’s out for the forseeable future, and picking up the injured Marvin Williams, who’s expected to be back in a couple of weeks and will have better value than The Prz when healthy.
Good example: Bobby Simmons
Bad Example: Shaquille O’Neal

The Rookie: Let’s face it.  Rookies are going to have their ups and downs. Managing them correctly, you’re going to have a valuable piece to your puzzle, but they’re so tough to predict on a nightly basis that a lot of times they’re more trouble than they’re worth (Rudy Gay, I’m looking at you).  Still, bench spots are often used for rookies and I say why the heck not.  THey’re an unknown commodity and often they can come out of nowhere to be really useful players.  Again, though, they need to be able to contribute in the NEAR FUTURE to be worth that bench spot, meaning if they’re stuck behind a couple of vets on a depth chart they’re just not worth your time.
Good Example: Paul Millsap
Bad Example: Randy Foye

The Slumper:  You know the type.  Hell, you probably even drafted one.  Everyone does.  These guys are the hardest to let go because you know that once you do, they’re going to turn right around and be a decent fantasy player down the line.  Guys like this will generate a good number of comments on FBB and for good reason.  Are they hurt?  Is playing time an issue?  Will they pick up the pieces?  Ultimately, no one knows.  But if you guess right on your slumper, good for you.
Good example: Boris Diaw
Bad Example: Speedy Claxton

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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Steve
November 22nd, 2006 7:39 am

Is this analysis for weekly lineup changes? In a daily lineup change league, I believe this strategy would change. Clearly, one would still use his bench for potential injuries or slumping stars; however, the rest of the bench should be filled with Role #1 guys.

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ic
November 22nd, 2006 7:45 am

so would you consider ilgauskas or wilcox to be a marginal starter who i could drop for david lee or marvin williams, respectively? or are these guys in a slump and they’ll emerge from it to carry my team to victory in the near (this week) future?

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November 22nd, 2006 8:21 am

What are your thoughts on using your bench spots to take advantage of matchups in a Roto league with daily transactions?

Let’s say you have two comparable players but only one available starting position. How do you feel about swapping them in and out, depending on matchups (keeping in mind max games played caps, of course)? Do the potential benefits (not having to settle for a player putting up poor numbers against a strong D) outweigh the drawbacks (leaving big points on the bench when a player miraculously blows up against a strong D)? Or would you rather package one of them in a trade so that you don’t have to play the guessing game between who to start and who to bench?

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bv
November 22nd, 2006 8:34 am

Steve - this IS for daily lineup change leagues, actually. You don’t need more than one fill-in guy. Remember, you have maximum games limits so it’s not like you can rotate in guys every day depending on who’s playing. Just have that one guy in case someone gets hurt. Then again, that’s just my opinion.

ic - ilgauskas counts as one of those slumping stars that it’s just impossible to know about. others on this board have dropped him, but his last 3 games have been pretty decent. Wilcox has been and will be up and down all year, that’s just the kind of player he is. I think if I could wait another week or two i would swap wilcox for marvin williams at that point, but marvin may get snatched up before then.

eddy - packaging them in a trade is unquestionably the best option. however, sometimes it’s tough to pull off trades like that invovling marginal starters. you’ll probably have to package them with a sure-thing starter to upgrade at that position.

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Steve
November 22nd, 2006 9:41 am

Bv - I am in a daily league; however, there is no max on add/drops. With that being said, there is a certain level of respect that the managers have for the league, and do not add/dop players just to maximize games played.

We carry 14 players on our team with 8 starting spots each night. You can play those 14 players as many times as you want.

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Tyler
November 22nd, 2006 12:23 pm

Just a quick question:

Devin Harris, what do u guys think of him. Is he just putting up decent numbers because Howard is down? Or will he continue to put up numbers like yesterday.

Thanks

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tim
November 22nd, 2006 1:29 pm

Please help

my line-up is

C- Mourining
C- Yao
Pg: Paul
SG: Redd
G: A. Miller
SF: J. SMith
F: C. Cutler
PF: Boozer
Util: Rafer
Util: Felton

Bench: Granger
Bench: Kristic
Bench: Prince

I know I need to package my players to get an upgrade becausde right now I have bench players who I can conceviably start at the other positions.

I am looking at getting peja because i am very weak in threes - or maybe package paul and someone for peja and brand…

That is my hope… any help would be appreciated

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Steve
November 22nd, 2006 1:35 pm

Felton and Boozer for Arenas could work.

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November 22nd, 2006 2:15 pm

Speaking of Lee, how much of a must-pickup is he right now? He’s insanely high on the player rater given the minutes he’s getting and the relatively limited number of shots he takes. I know his FT% will fall, but can he keep it up with the boards and the surprisingly high amount of steals?

Obviously, the main thing that worries me is the fact that he’s only playing 23.8 mpg. That number didn’t really increase despite his strong play and Frye’s slow start, so is there a realistic chance he’ll see more minutes in the future? What happens if he goes into a slump?

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November 22nd, 2006 6:36 pm

Nice article bv. I generally agree with your roles and your examples are spot on. The garbage spot is an interesting way to look at things. I was going to state that no one should have the problem of too many marginal starters and then I saw Tim’s team. So the garbage spot seems like a point worth mentioning.

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Martin
November 22nd, 2006 6:59 pm

The bench of my team is this
P.Gasol
J.Howard
B.Miller

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john
November 22nd, 2006 11:44 pm

i have the same problem as eddy in one of my leagues at the start of the season, and being unable to swing a trade, i ended up benching players who were facing SA, SAC, CHI or HOU… (looking through the numbers, it seems facing cleveland and atlanta are bad fantasy options, and chicago’s defense looks overrated) It does seem to work, to a certain extent, plus you can go a few games ahead of the projected schedule to buffer against injuries.

i just dropped luke walton to pick up shaq, which is normally a bad decision, except:
a. my ft% stinks anyway, and
b. I’m starting eddy curry at center…
I finally managed to swing a trade for a center, so now i’m left with choosing between curry and shaq… both are horrendous at TO and ft%, and marvin williams is FA, so i want to drop one of them for marvin, or possibly luke, if nobody claims him…

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rich
November 23rd, 2006 7:19 am

Darko listed as an afterthought as a fill-in starter? He seems to be a great C2 to me, just because of his dominating shot blocking. He also has a TON of upside potential - if he can overtake Battie, and just get 30 mpg, simple math suggests he’d get around 11.6 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 3.6 blocks per game! Interesting thing is that in this last game, a tight game against Indiana, Darko was in for the final stretch, and more importantly, making a lot of big plays. To get back to the point though, he seems capable of consistently swatting shots, and blocks are so rare that I think it elevates his value enough to merit playing him regularly.

Anyway, in a h2h league I’m in, I originally planned to compete in just 5 categories and dominate them, by loading up on high quality PGs and only drafting shot blockers, to dominate FT%, 3s, assists, steals, and blocks.

After some trades and pick-ups, this is what my team became:

PGs: Kidd, Billups, D. Williams, Felton, Marbury
SGs: Ginobili
SF: Butler, Garbajosa
SG/SF: Wally
PF: Sheed
C: Biedrins, Darko, Zo

I’ve turned out to be very competitive in rebounds (in fact, I’m currently edging out a team that has Okafor, Howard, and Boozer on it.. yeah I don’t know how either) thanks to Kidd, Butler, and Biedrins coming out of nowhere. Since my centers touch the ball so little, I’m finding I can compete in TOs now too. The free agency pool is quite interesting - Villanueva, Simmons, Marvin Williams, and J-Will are all there. I feel like Villanueva and Simmons would be perfect fits - I was wondering if you guys could throw out some names of people I should be looking into for some 2 for 1s to upgrade. I’m thinking the optimal players for me to move would be Wally (who is only good for 3s and percents), Marbury (underperforming, probably won’t shoot 3s), and Zo (who only has value for a month).

One guy I’m looking at is Big Z… the free throw percentage with the blocks is a strange, but great combo… it would give me a safe replacement for Zo too.

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[…] FantasyBasketblog has an excellent post on bench management at this link. They provide good definitions for the kinds of players you should have on your bench. So, my followup to BV’s post is to tell you how I go about scouting the waiver wire; specifically, I’m scouting the wire in the Dropping Dimes Experts League which is a 9-category 12 team roto league hosted at Yahoo. The details will be different depending on where your league is hosted, so I’ll try to keep it at a fairly strategic level. […]

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[…] Factor Number Two: The Garbage Spot comes into play Way back in November I blabbed for awhile about how to man your bench and, more specifically, the concept of the “garbage spot,” where you can pick up and drop players who might not necessarily have any real value but could in a couple of things if everything goes right.  You know who I dropped for Banks?  Jason Williams.  I’d picked him up a few weeks ago and he actually gave me a couple of decent games back in Mid-January.  But now he’s hurt, Eddie Jones and Gary Payton are back, and  when you think about it, who’s going to have more value over the next week, WIlliams or Banks?  […]

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