Comments on: Thanks … For Nothing http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/ A Fantasy Basketball Blog. Surprise. Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:43:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1711 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:46:29 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1711 I would have wanted a 6th-8th round talent for Marbury, or a struggling 4th-5th. However, when I noticed there were several players (though injured) of this caliber talent just sitting in free agency, it was easy for me to bite the bullet and dump him. I would have wanted a 6th-8th round talent for Marbury, or a struggling 4th-5th. However, when I noticed there were several players (though injured) of this caliber talent just sitting in free agency, it was easy for me to bite the bullet and dump him.

]]> by: bublitchki http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1710 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:21:42 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1710 John: Short answer: Nobody likes getting suckered. If I accept a lowball trade offer that ultimately works out to the other party's benefit, that's much more embarassing than if I drop that same player and pick up a stiff off the wire. The former scenario accords the other owner bragging rights over you for the rest of the year while the latter scenario is your screwup alone. The other reason is one of simple choice. With the lowball offer, I am locked into accepting or rejecting the one or two players offered whereas if I go to the wire, I have my choice of dozens of potential options. Having said that, you should still try and make a run at Marbury if you believe he can turn it around. Judging by the comments on this board, you might be able to snag him for a 7th-8th round caliber player. Just don't be too surprised if he turns you down. John:

Short answer: Nobody likes getting suckered.

If I accept a lowball trade offer that ultimately works out to the other party’s benefit, that’s much more embarassing than if I drop that same player and pick up a stiff off the wire. The former scenario accords the other owner bragging rights over you for the rest of the year while the latter scenario is your screwup alone.

The other reason is one of simple choice. With the lowball offer, I am locked into accepting or rejecting the one or two players offered whereas if I go to the wire, I have my choice of dozens of potential options.

Having said that, you should still try and make a run at Marbury if you believe he can turn it around. Judging by the comments on this board, you might be able to snag him for a 7th-8th round caliber player. Just don’t be too surprised if he turns you down.

]]> by: john http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1709 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:19:10 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1709 am i moronic for thinking of trading FOR marbury right now? Marbury's owner in the league is going nuts right now, his pg's are marbury and claxton. I have 5 pg's: felton, alston, nelson, francis, jack. Im currently in the bottom rung, so there is an incentive for me to pull a high-risk trade. firstly, will there be a light at the end of the tunnel for marbury owners? secondly, what would it take to pry marbury off your hands? i find it strangely surprising that people would oftentimes opt to drop a player rather than trade him to an opponent with a "buy-low" offer. am i moronic for thinking of trading FOR marbury right now? Marbury’s owner in the league is going nuts right now, his pg’s are marbury and claxton. I have 5 pg’s: felton, alston, nelson, francis, jack. Im currently in the bottom rung, so there is an incentive for me to pull a high-risk trade. firstly, will there be a light at the end of the tunnel for marbury owners? secondly, what would it take to pry marbury off your hands?
i find it strangely surprising that people would oftentimes opt to drop a player rather than trade him to an opponent with a “buy-low” offer.

]]> by: rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1707 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:00:52 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1707 Alright, I've had it. 0 shots now, 4 assists. I thought it was a steal when I traded for you a month ago for just Mo Williams and Mobley, I really did. I'm going to send him off to the free agency land, who do you guys think I should grab, Villanueva, Marvin Williams, or Simmons? Marvin Williams certainly had a ton of hype... any reasonable estimates of what he could potentially do this year? Alright, I’ve had it. 0 shots now, 4 assists. I thought it was a steal when I traded for you a month ago for just Mo Williams and Mobley, I really did. I’m going to send him off to the free agency land, who do you guys think I should grab, Villanueva, Marvin Williams, or Simmons? Marvin Williams certainly had a ton of hype… any reasonable estimates of what he could potentially do this year?

]]> by: DM http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1706 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:56:08 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1706 Hmm, seems like the New York Post was a bit off in its reporting. WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT?!?!?! Think Kevin Martin thoughts, think Kevin Martin thoughts, think Kevin Martin thoughts.... Hmm, seems like the New York Post was a bit off in its reporting. WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT?!?!?!

Think Kevin Martin thoughts, think Kevin Martin thoughts, think Kevin Martin thoughts….

]]> by: rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1697 Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:16:51 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1697 I should've known better, Marbury follows up his media promise by taking 4 shots in 3 quarters. I should’ve known better, Marbury follows up his media promise by taking 4 shots in 3 quarters.

]]> by: rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1694 Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:25:51 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1694 Marbury owners, we might have a reason to rejoice... read this article that just came out about four hours ago: http://www.nypost.com/seven/11232006/sports/knicks/stephon_freed_to_be_starbury_knicks_marc_berman.htm Apparently, Marbury was given the green light by Isiah to start shooting like crazy - he wants Marbury to take over the offense. Marbury owners, we might have a reason to rejoice… read this article that just came out about four hours ago:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11232006/sports/knicks/stephon_freed_to_be_starbury_knicks_marc_berman.htm

Apparently, Marbury was given the green light by Isiah to start shooting like crazy - he wants Marbury to take over the offense.

]]> by: Saeed http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1693 Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:18:31 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1693 I was about to do a Steph hate post, but that was good enough for me! I was about to do a Steph hate post, but that was good enough for me!

]]> by: alex http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1692 Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:34:15 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1692 yo i followed your logic and reasoning and drafted marbury in the 4th as well. i thought he'd be a nice complementary PG2 with bibby who doesnt dish as much. i read an article off the realgm wiretap and i'm still holding onto some hope. there's no other option really, cant drop the guy. but yeh anyway, isaiah's tellin him to get back to playin like starbury and marbury himself said that he's been tryin to play so he could accomodate his team mates. dunno how this will go but seriously, cant be any worse than he's already playin. hang in there DM. yo i followed your logic and reasoning and drafted marbury in the 4th as well. i thought he’d be a nice complementary PG2 with bibby who doesnt dish as much.

i read an article off the realgm wiretap and i’m still holding onto some hope. there’s no other option really, cant drop the guy. but yeh anyway, isaiah’s tellin him to get back to playin like starbury and marbury himself said that he’s been tryin to play so he could accomodate his team mates. dunno how this will go but seriously, cant be any worse than he’s already playin. hang in there DM.

]]> by: bublitchki http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1691 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:51:05 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2006/11/23/thanks-for-nothing/#comment-1691 Hey DM, thanks for the kind words. It's not often that one is described as "wise" and then compared to Bill Walton in the very next sentence (isn't that a contradiction?) Anyway, it's nice to know that people actually bother to read the shit I post. In keeping with the spirit of your column, I'd like to add my own little holiday fungoo to one Andrei Kirilenko. I didn't really trust Kirilenko coming into this year (I had been burned by him last year) Problem was, no one else in my league did either. When he subsequently dropped to the end of the third round (!) in our draft, I felt compelled to select him. Well, any AK owners reading this now know how well that turned out: mediocre start, the obligatory ankle sprain in Milwaukee, and the uncertain timetable for his return. But as bad as these past few weeks have been, the future looks even grimmer. With the Jazz having gone undefeated in his absence, I'm sure Sloan is in no rush to get him back. The team is really clicking now, so why would he want to upset that chemistry by inserting a subpar Andrei into the mix? Of course, he will play when healthy - but what will his role be? This is clearly Boozer and Williams' team now, so how will AK adjust to being relegated to the supporting cast? Will he still get 35+ mins/gm? I don't foresee this taking a turn for the better. I've floated a few trade offers out there but nobody has been in the least bit interested. And, even if the worst case scenario comes to pass and he winds up seriously injured or seriously ineffective, I couldn't even drop him as he's on Yahoo's "Can Not Cut List." So, Andrei Kirilenko: Thanks... for NOTHING! Hey DM, thanks for the kind words. It’s not often that one is described as “wise” and then compared to Bill Walton in the very next sentence (isn’t that a contradiction?) Anyway, it’s nice to know that people actually bother to read the shit I post.

In keeping with the spirit of your column, I’d like to add my own little holiday fungoo to one Andrei Kirilenko.

I didn’t really trust Kirilenko coming into this year (I had been burned by him last year) Problem was, no one else in my league did either. When he subsequently dropped to the end of the third round (!) in our draft, I felt compelled to select him.

Well, any AK owners reading this now know how well that turned out: mediocre start, the obligatory ankle sprain in Milwaukee, and the uncertain timetable for his return.

But as bad as these past few weeks have been, the future looks even grimmer. With the Jazz having gone undefeated in his absence, I’m sure Sloan is in no rush to get him back. The team is really clicking now, so why would he want to upset that chemistry by inserting a subpar Andrei into the mix? Of course, he will play when healthy - but what will his role be? This is clearly Boozer and Williams’ team now, so how will AK adjust to being relegated to the supporting cast? Will he still get 35+ mins/gm?

I don’t foresee this taking a turn for the better. I’ve floated a few trade offers out there but nobody has been in the least bit interested. And, even if the worst case scenario comes to pass and he winds up seriously injured or seriously ineffective, I couldn’t even drop him as he’s on Yahoo’s “Can Not Cut List.”

So, Andrei Kirilenko: Thanks… for NOTHING!

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