Buy, Sell or Hold: Utah Jazz

In our first edition of BSH, we looked at the Golden State Warriors, a team who’s oft-injured star (Baron Davis) and breakout players (Monta Ellis, Andris Biedrins) created a situation with values in flux.  We’re going to continue that trend today and look at the Utah Jazz, a team with an oft-injured star (Andrei Kirilenko) and a breakout player (Deron Williams) that has created some changing values and maybe could change the way we look at this team. 

There are, of course, a couple of major differences.  For one, Golden State has a new head coach in Don Nelson, whereas Utah’s Jerry Sloan is the oldest institution in Utah besides Mormons.  Two, Nelson believes in a seven-to-eight man rotation, whereas Sloan plays a solid 10-12 most nights.  And finally, Utah’s got a couple of guys who are 30-minutes-no-matter-what in their starting lineup in Carlos Boozer, Deron Williams and Mehmet Okur.  So the minutes aren’t going to be as available here as they are in Golden State.  Still, with AK-47 all busted and Boozer and Williams playing like Stockton and Malone, something’s up in the Salt Lake …

Andrei Kirilenko – Let’s start here.  You knew going into the season that Kirilenko was an injury risk, and that was brought to reality pretty quickly with the ankle sprain that’s kept him out for 5 games.  What you perhaps weren’t counting on was that his offensive game would fall completely off the table.  Even when he’s on the floor, he’s not shooting the ball very much – and when he IS shooting the ball, it’s not going in!  What’s more worrying is that this is looking less like an aberration and more like a trend.  Last year his points per 40 minutes dropped by almost three, and now it’s down another six.  His FT% dropped 9 percent last year and now it’s still there.  And his FG% dropped over 3% last year and now it’s down another six.  I don’t think he’s going to continue being this bad but he may end up being a ten points a night kinda guy.  Jerry Sloan has pulled him in from the 3-point line as well, and his 0-5 the other night won’t help reverse that trend.  He had his best game in awhile last night but I’m not convinced he’ll be consistent enough to be a stud anymore.  If you can find someone who still believes that AK can contribute late second round value (or even third), I think you’ve got to pull the trigger there.  VERDICT: SELL.

Carlos Boozer – The longer this goes on, the more that Boozer looks like he’s going to be a pretty serious fantasy force for the foreseeable future.  And no, I’m not talking about his career-highs in points, boards, FG%, or assists, because those are going to come down eventually.  But it’s starting to look like he’s going to be a dependable double-double with great percentages for a C, and while he’s never going to contribute in blocks or steals, it’s time to look at Boozer like a legit Top-30 player.  Some Boozer owners are going to want to sell high on him, but the truth is he’s not over-performing by THAT much.  If you can get him for a shaky third or a fourth round value, go for it.  VERDICT: BUY.

Deron Williams – The big question here is, has Williams simply improved, or is he over-performing?  I was all ready to come in to this and say that Williams is going to crash back to Earth eventually, just like Kevin Martin and Zack Randolph and then DM will go home crying to his Momma.  But the fact of the matter is that Williams, like Boozer, has some substance behind his statistical burst.  First of all, he dropped eight pounds over the offseason.  Secondly, it looks like he’s won over Jerry Sloan, and you don’t need Carlos Arroyo to tell you that Sloan decides your fate in Utah.  I still think he’s over-performing, but I also wouldn’t mind tricking a sell-happy owner into selling him for a fourth-round value.  VERDICT: BUY.

Mehmet Okur - While Boozer and Williams have excelled, and Kirilenko has collapsed, Mehmet Okur has simply been exactly what he was last year.  Those who were worried that last year was going to be a fluke for Okur can rest those fears now.  He’ll be a solid producer for the foreseeable future, and if you took him in the fourth round, good for you.  VERDICT: HOLD.

Matt Harpring -  Remember last week when I was talking about how you have to have that “plug-in starter” on your bench, the guy who you can put in your lineup for a game or two when one of your players has a nagging injury?  Matt Harpring is that guy defined.  He obviously won’t shoot 54% over the rest of the year but he’ll put up double-digit points with a couple boards and occasional 3’s or steals.  VERDICT: HOLD.

Paul Millsap - Pardon me as I continue to pat myself on the back for totally calling it on Millsap leading up to the draft.  He led the country in rebounds for three consecutive years, and I was hoping the Wizards would use their FIRST round pick on him.  Still, he’s just not going to see the consistent minutes that he needs to be successful.  He’ll have his hot streaks for sure, but unless Boozer or Okur go down with an injury, Millsap is probably waiver wire fodder.  VERDICT: SELL.

Derek Fisher – Here’s one you may have forgotten about.  Fisher has quietly been picking up his game in Utah and had hit double-digit points in three straight before last night.  He will see his minutes because Jerry Sloan likes his veteran presence.  Like Harpring, Fisher should be on the bench if you’re in a deep league as that fill-in starter.  Unlike Harpring, it’s certainly a possibility that Fisher will see more minutes as the season goes on.  Utah will not continue this torrid pace (much easier to say after they lost their last 2), and the obvious answer for Sloan – other than Kirilenko working his way back into the lineup – is for more Fisher.  VERDICT: BUY.

01
Rick
November 28th, 2006 7:47 am

Just had someone offer me Bosh for Deron Williams and Mike Miller… Deron is my only pg, but this seems like something I should jump on, what do you guys think?

02
bv
November 28th, 2006 7:54 am

Rick,

I like deals where you’re getting the far-and-away best player, and that’s the case here. I’d pull the trigger and go hunting for another PG.

03
bublitchki
November 28th, 2006 9:04 am

Some thoughts:

AK: I posted my AK rant on Thanksgiving and my feelings haven’t changed much since then, last night’s good game notwithstanding.

Kirilenko has jumped the shark and just about everyone who plays fantasy hoops knows it. Hell, If I could get 6th round value for him right now, I’d grab it. Problem is, no one in my league is willing to bite.

Forget the injury history. Even if he stays healthy he’s still the odd man out on this team. If you look at his game last night, you’ll see that he woke up after Williams went out with foul trouble early on and AK got to take on the point forward role. The crappy shooting I can live with (who drafts AK for his scoring prowess anyway?) but the dropoff in the other categories is what’s been so painful to watch. Seems that if AK ain’t in the flow of the offense, he kinda disappears elsewhere.

Boozer: I wouldn’t overpay. He’s traditionally been a fast starter who gradually tapers off as the season wears on. I think 20/9/2 is about right. Considering how little he gives you in blocks, it’s just not that unique. Plus his injury history isn’t all that much rosier than Kirilenko’s. Tread carefully.

Finally, how ’bout that Andris Biedrins? Dude was totally sick last night. If there was ever a game when I would have expected him to drop off, it would have been against Duncan and the Spurs. Not only did he drop 18/15/4 with 6 blocks, but he played Duncan to a virtual draw.

Hope not too many here went with last week’s sell recommendation. This kid is barely 20 years old and is literally improving nightly. Nellie loves him (gave him 42 mins last night) and he’s cemented himself as the Warriors’ starting center. I’d ride this bus as far as it goes…

04
Nelson
November 28th, 2006 9:33 am

Mike Dunleavy was just dropped in my Yahoo League for Randy Foye. I want to pick him up and wondering which of these guys i should drop:

Brent Barry
Smush Parker

I am a big stickler for pct%s and i think barry would be better in the FT and FG% categories. Suggestions?

Thanks.

05
rich
November 28th, 2006 1:25 pm

bublitchki, you forgot to mention Biedrins also went insane against Utah, and outperformed both Boozer and Okur. He was playing so well, Boozer was actually passing out of the lane in the 4th quarter rather than taking 5 foot shots - Biedrins was that effective. I like how his “worst” game of this week might be that 31/10/1 game, and maybe it’s just this incredible week, but Biedrins has been hitting his free throws lately, and if he takes that flaw out of his game, my god.

If Biedrins keeps this up.. it’s going to be very hard for me to not use a second or third round pick on him next year. If he keeps up his recent free throw shooting improvement, and I have a pick near the end of the first, I’m taking him. I see no reason why he wouldn’t completely dominate the league in rebounds, blocks, and FG% with natural improvement by age and experience, again assuming he maintains something close to his now ridiculous pace this season.

06
ray
November 28th, 2006 3:25 pm

whoa i think you guys are going a little overboard on biedrins right now. let’s give it a little more time before saying 2nd/3rd round next year. i’ve watched a lot of gsw games on league pass this year and i’m not too sure he’s as good as people are making him out to be. guy can’t hit a shot outside of 5 ft and i’m still unsure of his ft shot. he’s been doing better lately but i still remember him shooting his ft shots with 1 hand at the beginning of the year.

rick, i got something pretty close to your trade last week in steve nash/stephen jackson for my deron williams/kevin martin. going with the conventional wisdom of getting the best player in the deal i pulled the trigger, but am kind of regretting it right now. i still think you should do it though.

07
Jeremy
November 28th, 2006 4:22 pm

I too am someone that missed out on Biedrins because I was too hesitant.

Anyways, right now I have a waiver claim filed for Shane Battier (giving up Chris Wilcox). Take a look at my roster:

LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Joe Johnson
Mike Bibby
Marcus Camby
Jameer Nelson
Chris Kaman
Darko Milicic
Andre Miller
Kevin Martin
Josh Howard
David West
Nenad Krstic
Deron Williams
Chris Wilcox / (Battier)

Right now I’m leaning towards Battier to drop. The only guard I would give up is Nelson, and even then I think he’ll play better than he has done so far. Krstic, I think, will continue to do what he is done so far this year, and I think that Darko could legitimately break out if given 30 minutes a game, which is where his numbers have been creeping up lately. Wilcox only is strong in rebounding, and doesn’t help out much in anything else; plus, I do have some other pretty strong rebounders at other positions, such as Paul Pierce at G/F (9.0 rebs/game).

Would you pull the trigger on this? I think that Battier will end up in the top 60, Heck he’s #72 right now even with him not shooting well. My only concern is that Bonzi Wells may come in and eat up some of his time, which could be a factor (Unless Battier continues to play more time at the PF). Anyways, what do you guys think about this? The waiver goes through tonight I believe, and I have the next to last waiver claim so hopefully I’ll be able to grab him.

Thanks.

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bublitchki
November 28th, 2006 6:55 pm

Jeremy:

If you’re OK in rebounding, I like the move. As has been noted here numerous times, Battier is an underappreciated player who’ll give you a smattering of steals, blocks, 3s, boards and good %.

Ray:

I don’t think anyone here is “going overboard on Biedrins.” Look, we all know it’s way too early to anoint him the second coming of Bill Russell or even think about giving up 2nd/3rd round value for him at this point.

Here are the facts, as I see them. The kid is barely 20 years old and has already spent two full years in the NBA. Before this season, he rarely got minutes and was widely regarded as a talented project who was very raw and prone to foul trouble. At the start of this year, he still wasn’t on anyone’s radar. By week 3, however, he had established himself as the Warriors’ best center, albeit one with an underdeveloped offensive game, a penchant for fouling, and utterly hopeless at the line.

Well, in the few weeks since he began getting regular minutes, his scoring has increased (including a completely unexpected 31 pt outburst), his fouling has decreased enough for him to stay on the floor for 40+ mins, and his FT shooting has improved to the point where he can actually make one.

In short, the kid seems to be a quick study who has shown the ability to correct some of the flaws in his game and appears to be improving with each passing game. Maybe he hits a plateau or backslides a bit. Or, maybe he continues to get better. And if that winds up being the case, as Rich points out, then it’s not unrealistic to project him as a prospective 2nd/3rd rounder next year.

09
November 29th, 2006 9:39 pm

Hey guys, I’m in a 14 team league, couple of my players are extremely underperforming lately, please tell me your opinion on if I should make the following changes through the WW:

Drop:

Fred Jones or Hedo or Kendrick Perkins

for

Jose Garbajosa or Marvin Williams or Smush Parker

thanks a lot

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