Comments on: C-Webb. C-Webb Get Bought Out. C-Webb Find a New Team. C-Webb Have Fantasy Value? http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/ A Fantasy Basketball Blog. Surprise. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:45:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Fantasy Basketblog » Blog Archive » Buy, Sell or Hold: Detroit Pistons http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2600 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:03:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2600 [...] Chris Webber, PF - Why not start here?  There are a couple of things to consider with Webber, and DM covered some of them last thursday, but let’s revisit now that he’s in Detroit.  Concern number one has to be minutes.  There should be no illusions here - Chris Webber is here to help this team win a championship.  Championships are not won in February.  As long as the other four stay healthy, and Webber provides at least something, Detroit should run away with home court.  Even if they don’t, Flip Saunders will have to keep a tight leash on Webber’s minutes.  Why play the guy 35 mpg and wear him out by playoff time?  To expect any more than 30 mpg out of Webber given his health and the situation he’s in is probably unreasonable, but that could change with concern number two: His drive.  Webber was clearly unhappy in Philly, but you know what?  He was unhappy last year and still put up almost 20/10.  So I don’t think this is a Vince Carter situation here - I think Webber is legitimately hurt and legitimately old and is physically incapable of putting up 20/10 again or playing 35-40 mpg anymore.  Then, there’s concern number three: his fit with the club.  Webber showed in Philly that he can produce in multiple systems, and that should be the case here.  His assist rate fell while playing next to AI but this year he’s been back to his typical per-minute passing numbers, and that should keep up in the free-flowing Detroit offense.  Much like in Sacramento, he’ll be surrounded by four guys who can take and make 20-footers, so his assists will be there, though the points might not.  So we’ve established that he won’t play more than 30 mpg, he’s hurt, but he’ll pass well.  Let’s guess a line of 13/8/4 with a steal, a block, and decent %’s.  That’s utility player sorta numbers right there.  There’s one other wild-card here, though: Center eligibility.  Should he gain it, he’s definitely a top-20 center.  The rumor is that he’ll be a “center” here, and with Rasheed Wallace not qualifying at the five, he could certainly be eligible there after a few games.  I think that’s where his “sneaky” value lies, and that’s why I’m saying VERDICT: BUY. [...] […] Chris Webber, PF - Why not start here?  There are a couple of things to consider with Webber, and DM covered some of them last thursday, but let’s revisit now that he’s in Detroit.  Concern number one has to be minutes.  There should be no illusions here - Chris Webber is here to help this team win a championship.  Championships are not won in February.  As long as the other four stay healthy, and Webber provides at least something, Detroit should run away with home court.  Even if they don’t, Flip Saunders will have to keep a tight leash on Webber’s minutes.  Why play the guy 35 mpg and wear him out by playoff time?  To expect any more than 30 mpg out of Webber given his health and the situation he’s in is probably unreasonable, but that could change with concern number two: His drive.  Webber was clearly unhappy in Philly, but you know what?  He was unhappy last year and still put up almost 20/10.  So I don’t think this is a Vince Carter situation here - I think Webber is legitimately hurt and legitimately old and is physically incapable of putting up 20/10 again or playing 35-40 mpg anymore.  Then, there’s concern number three: his fit with the club.  Webber showed in Philly that he can produce in multiple systems, and that should be the case here.  His assist rate fell while playing next to AI but this year he’s been back to his typical per-minute passing numbers, and that should keep up in the free-flowing Detroit offense.  Much like in Sacramento, he’ll be surrounded by four guys who can take and make 20-footers, so his assists will be there, though the points might not.  So we’ve established that he won’t play more than 30 mpg, he’s hurt, but he’ll pass well.  Let’s guess a line of 13/8/4 with a steal, a block, and decent %’s.  That’s utility player sorta numbers right there.  There’s one other wild-card here, though: Center eligibility.  Should he gain it, he’s definitely a top-20 center.  The rumor is that he’ll be a “center” here, and with Rasheed Wallace not qualifying at the five, he could certainly be eligible there after a few games.  I think that’s where his “sneaky” value lies, and that’s why I’m saying VERDICT: BUY. 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]]> by: Matt http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2522 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:34:47 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2522 Thanks, I appreciate the help. That's what I was thinking too. It also seems unlikely that anybody will run to grab him. Thanks, I appreciate the help. That’s what I was thinking too. It also seems unlikely that anybody will run to grab him.

]]> by: Andy http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2520 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:43:26 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2520 Matt, Murphy's value is pretty limited right now. He's only getting 20 mpg, and in those 20 minutes he's obviously not doing much. I haven't seen any GSW games lately, but from what I've read he looks even slower on the court than usual due to the Warriors' style of play, and he's not a favorite of the coaching staff. Plus, the Warriors have a ton of dudes who love to shoot (Davis, Ellis, Pietrus, Richardson, Barnes). These factors aren't likely to change soon, so although his value may improve somewhat as he recovers from his foot injury I just don't think Murphy will ever get the chance to be the fantasy contributor you would expect unless he gets traded. If he's not getting many shots, Murphy just doesn't do much for you. He'll rebound consistently, but there are probably guys in your FA pool (Gerald Green? Rasual Butler? Matt "I don't miss free throws" Carroll?) that will be better overall contributors than Murphy. Matt, Murphy’s value is pretty limited right now. He’s only getting 20 mpg, and in those 20 minutes he’s obviously not doing much. I haven’t seen any GSW games lately, but from what I’ve read he looks even slower on the court than usual due to the Warriors’ style of play, and he’s not a favorite of the coaching staff. Plus, the Warriors have a ton of dudes who love to shoot (Davis, Ellis, Pietrus, Richardson, Barnes).

These factors aren’t likely to change soon, so although his value may improve somewhat as he recovers from his foot injury I just don’t think Murphy will ever get the chance to be the fantasy contributor you would expect unless he gets traded. If he’s not getting many shots, Murphy just doesn’t do much for you. He’ll rebound consistently, but there are probably guys in your FA pool (Gerald Green? Rasual Butler? Matt “I don’t miss free throws” Carroll?) that will be better overall contributors than Murphy.

]]> by: Matt http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2518 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:44:16 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2518 What do you do with Troy Murphy? What do you do with Troy Murphy?

]]> by: rich http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2513 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:32:58 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2513 If Webber goes to Detroit, I like the fact it almost ensures Sheed will get back his C-eligibility, as I doubt they would bench both Webber and Sheed to play Maxwell, Mohammed, and McDyess. Also, with Webber starting, this could free up Sheed to take more outside shots, cutting into his rebounding at the cost of more 3s. If Webber goes to Detroit, I like the fact it almost ensures Sheed will get back his C-eligibility, as I doubt they would bench both Webber and Sheed to play Maxwell, Mohammed, and McDyess. Also, with Webber starting, this could free up Sheed to take more outside shots, cutting into his rebounding at the cost of more 3s.

]]> by: Give Me The Rock » Midnight Snacks: Small Portions http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2512 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:23:45 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2512 [...] Also, after much speculation, Chris Webber was bought out by the Sixers. TrueHoop has a great summary of Webber, his story, and on what team he might end up on. And Fantasy Basketblog sums up the fantasy implications of those possible locations. Personally, from a pure fantasy standpoint, it’s not going to get much better for Webber than the 76ers. If you held onto him for this long, a trade might be worthwhile. [...] […] Also, after much speculation, Chris Webber was bought out by the Sixers. TrueHoop has a great summary of Webber, his story, and on what team he might end up on. And Fantasy Basketblog sums up the fantasy implications of those possible locations. Personally, from a pure fantasy standpoint, it’s not going to get much better for Webber than the 76ers. If you held onto him for this long, a trade might be worthwhile. […]

]]> by: terrance http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2510 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 02:36:00 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2510 just traded lebron for baron davis and elton brand. i threw in j nelson to make it a 2-2 because i was dropping nelson anyways. i like the trade, brand is higher on basketball monster for the season and davis is just behind lebron. i know i have injury issues with davis, but forget it, i think its a decent deal even if davis goes down. its a H2H league too!!!! so i pick up huge contributors and in h2h its all about games played and how good yr bench is, my worst player is brad miller. well, it could be miller, do i drop david west for brad miller? i have the # 1 waiver, so hes mine if i want him just traded lebron for baron davis and elton brand. i threw in j nelson to make it a 2-2 because i was dropping nelson anyways.

i like the trade, brand is higher on basketball monster for the season and davis is just behind lebron.

i know i have injury issues with davis, but forget it, i think its a decent deal even if davis goes down. its a H2H league too!!!! so i pick up huge contributors and in h2h its all about games played and how good yr bench is, my worst player is brad miller.

well, it could be miller, do i drop david west for brad miller? i have the # 1 waiver, so hes mine if i want him

]]> by: bv http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2505 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:15:07 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2505 tommy, sounds to me like you need a point guard ... guys you should be able to get for bogut include tj ford or maybe jason terry. tommy, sounds to me like you need a point guard … guys you should be able to get for bogut include tj ford or maybe jason terry.

]]> by: Tommy http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2504 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:53:52 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2504 I've got a problem with my fantasy team. My team is pretty well rounded, but my biggest weakness is my FT%, and ast and the only player i am willing to ship is andrew bogut. do you have any players in mind that equal his value? I’ve got a problem with my fantasy team. My team is pretty well rounded, but my biggest weakness is my FT%, and ast and the only player i am willing to ship is andrew bogut. do you have any players in mind that equal his value?

]]> by: terrrance http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2501 Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:10:12 +0000 http://www.fantasybasketblog.net/2007/01/11/c-webb-c-webb-get-bought-out-c-webb-find-a-new-team-c-webb-have-fantasy-value/#comment-2501 as a mo williams owner, im not too disappointed. mo a natural two and will still split time at the 1 until the bucks are healthy, if thats this season...who knows. as a mo williams owner, im not too disappointed. mo a natural two and will still split time at the 1 until the bucks are healthy, if thats this season…who knows.

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