Late Greats - The Rooks

So last year was a pretty lame year for rookies - so bad that the ROY, Brandon Roy, pulled down the award despite missing 25 games.  Outside of Roy, actually, not a single rookie was in the top 140 on the APR.  (Can that be true? Maybe I’m missing somebody?)  Anyhow, that was then, and this is now, and despite already losing one of it’s crown jewels for the season, this year is supposed to be much stronger.  SO let’s take a look at some of the guys you’ll be chosing from in the last few rounds of the fantasy draft (I think Kevin Durant might be gone by then, so we’ll skip him)…

Jeff Green

FBB got a good look at Green these past two years as his Hoyas team was on our local DC television a lot, and I gotta say, I don’t love his game.  He might have been a ‘do-it-all’ kinda guy, but watching the Hoyas, you ALWAYS noticed Roy Hibbert, but you didn’t always notice Green.  He had a tendency to disappear in college and that worries me.  He’s one of those guys where, while he might do everything pretty well, he’s not great at any one thing.  Yes he could be a great glue guy, but glue isn’t a fantasy stat.  He reminds me of a Shane Battier type, who if he gets enough minutes will have decent value but even then will be on the fringes of fantasy value.  Making matters worse, he’s a G/F, so it’s not like he’ll be helping at a scarcity position.  I think I’d look elsewhere for a late-round pick.

Al Thornton

Lots of people are big on Grandpa Al because of Elton Brand’s injury.  At first, I was less convinced, but I think I’ve turned around.  I first thought that Thornton’s age (23) was a negative, but that’s in terms of long-term value - for this year, it’s a positive.  His body is developed enough that he’ll be able to handle the rigors of an NBA season.  So what if he’ll never be a superstar?  All we want right now is for him to fill in nicely for Brand.  The minutes will certainly be there for the taking, so it’s all baout performance for Thorton, and the preseason has shown some positive results.  Yes, he turns the ball over - a lot - but he’s also a triple threat possibility, contributing in 3’s, steals, and blocks, and he’s had decent percentages in college as well.  Thornton is worth a look to stash on your bench if you can get him late enough.

Acie Law IV

I was pretty high on Law coming out of the draft and I am still pretty excited about his possibilities this year.  He still hasn’t found his stroke from long range but he’s been getting plenty of minutes, impressing the Hawks brass (not sure if that’s good or bad, tho) and in competition for the starting PG spot.  Considering that his competition is Speedy Claxton, even if he doesn’t win it with his play, he might get it though injury either way.  Law’s rebounding numbers have been particularly impressive early on here, and he’s a guy who needs to be drafted in every league as long as his wrist is OK.

Marco Belinelli

Belinelli is not going to go undrafted - after blowing up in the summer league and seeing Monta Ellis get hurt early, Belinelli is a familiar name for fantasy players.  His upside is as big as any rookie out there outside of Durant, due to his shooting ability.  He won’t contribute much in terms of boards or assists but with enough minutes he should be a nice source of 3’s and steals, sort of a Manu Ginobili type who has sneaky value.  He will be subject to the whims of Don Nelson, which is never easy, but with Ellis and Baron Davis both injury risks, he should have plenty of opportunity for playing time.  I’d be OK with drafting him as a utility guy, but I’d be very happy putting him on my bench.

Juan Carlos Navarro
The Robin to Pau Gasol’s Batman, he will get minutes because Pau wants him to.  He’s supposed to be a great scorer (they call him “La Bomba”) and the Grizzlies seem like the kind of team that will let him shoot - just look at what Mike Miller did last year once they let him play his game.  That said, he’s not going to contribute in boards or assists.  Even if he gets the minutes, doesn’t he sound a bit like Bostjan Nachbar?  Just a thought.  He’s been getting tons of minutes in the preseason and scoring in bunches, and is probably worth a look in the 8-10th round area, but I might let someone else take that risk.

Luis Scola

Scola is supposed to be hot stuff, apparently.  He won the MVP award at the FIBA Americas tournament, is going to be the starting PF for the Rockets,  and looks like a good source of points and boards.  There are 2 questions for Scola.  One, does he do anything other than points and boards, and two, how much is he really going to get the ball?  On the first question, he doesn’t appear to be a big blocks or steals guy, and unlike most Euros he appears to never shoot threes.  His FT is not so great either, hovering around the 70% mark.  So it doesn’t look like he’ll do much besides points and boards.  On the second question, He’s no better than the 4th option at any point for the Rockets, who are totally loaded witih scorers.  Is he really going to see more than 7-8 shots a game?  I’m pretty skeptical.  That said, the minutes will definitely be there and he’s certainly worth owning but I think he’ll be drafted a little bit higher than his actual value.  I’d let someone else take him unless I can get him on my bench, but I don’t think he’ll last that long.

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alex
October 17th, 2007 7:36 am

hey sorry just carryin on from comments from last post - if tyrus gets starting position does that give him any more value? or because he plays for skiles it doesn’t impact anything at all?

i’ve got maxiell, tyrus and bynum all on a bench atm and i dont know who to drop if need be. and comparitively, who do you think will have the best value of maxiell and thornton? am i right in sayin that thorntons a better shot blocker?

and i read that navarro has a silky smooth handle so he’ll slot into pg from time to time - dont know his game but he seems to offer better value than belinelli if he can get his assists up

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bobbo
October 17th, 2007 8:06 am

How does Juan Carlos Navarro, a 6′3″ combo guard, sound like Bostjan Nachbar, a 6′9 1/2″ combo forward? They are both Europeans? They are both white? They both shoot?

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bv
October 17th, 2007 8:14 am

alex, if ty thomas is a starter, then yeah i’d give him more of a shot, but he won’t be valuable playing only 20 mpg, he’s gonna have to get at least 25 or 30 to be a fantasy starter. Still, i like him more than maxiell, and about even with bynum. I think maxiell is a better blocker than thornton.

bobbo, fair enough, but i’m talking more about stats than actual games. JCN just seems like a guy who will get flirt with value because of his threes but won’t contribute much else - much like Nachbar. But yeah, agreed, totally different players.

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Frank
October 17th, 2007 9:20 am

What’s the word on Mike Conley?

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Joe
October 17th, 2007 10:24 am

I too think JCN might be a better option than Belinelli because he’s more of a sure bet to get consistent minutes, although I’m only going by articles and word of mouth so far. Is he that much better than Lowry, Conley Jr., and Kinsley to get more minutes than them?

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Terrance
October 17th, 2007 10:46 am

I know yr maryland guys, shouldnt have asked about JJ Redick :)

I drafted elton brand with the 157 pick overall (my last pick)

this is a h2h league, ive read that february isnt a sure date that he will be back. He may miss the entire season. Some of my sleepers are still in the FA pool. Drop Brand for one of them? Of my sleeper list who is the best bet to be consistent?

1. (12) Rashard Lewis SF
2. (17) Andre Iguodala SG,SF
3. (40) Carlos Boozer PF,C
4. (45) Jason Terry PG,SG
5. (68) Raymond Felton PG,SG
6. (73) Shane Battier SF
7. (96) David Lee SF,PF
8. (101) Luis Scola SF,PF
9. (124) Marvin Williams SG,SF
10. (129) Jaun Carlos Navaroo PG,SG
11. (152) J.J. Redick PG,SG
12. (157) Elton Brand PF,C

alston
acie law
r evans
szxzerbiak
g green
m webster
a blatche
mccants

my guess would be acie law, but is he good enough to drop reddick or brand? reddick has had a decent preseason and is stroking from distance. Word is he beat out ariza for the SG spot.

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play
October 17th, 2007 11:36 am

Terrance,

Oh boy I am not trying to be a downer here but you have a few holes to fix. Your team, on a average week, will not win blocks, points, and rebounds, and assists. What the team MIGHT win is threes, and turnovers (if you play that category).

Why draft Iggy and not another three point shooter (with decent steals) to complement Rashard’s strong suit? In a tradition h2h league, if you want to compete with the best three point teams, you need minimum 5 bombers (that’s >100 threes).

Your point guards are JT and Felton. You drafted JT, a low assist point guard, then Felton? Iggy assits as well but You’ll run into a couple of teams with legitimate guards that will put the assist category away before you know it.

One center in boozer? You’re really gambling. A back up is strongly suggested.

Picking up a couple three point shooters to seal off the three point category and a back up center who has high steals to complement your current squad is what I see fitting. GL Terrance.

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play
October 17th, 2007 11:41 am

Forgot to mention, JT, Boozer, Rashard, Shane = low turnover guys. Felton and Iggy = high turnover guys. You could’ve dominated this category with a couple different picks.

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Terrance
October 17th, 2007 1:43 pm

play-i knew after i posted i shouldve included the league setting. its a 14 team league, 9 starters. Everything is standard yahoo except one C instead of two.

I ran this team through basketball monster and its a steady group of guys avg over the league avg in every cat except blocks (which i punted)

team #’s

FG% 47.1
FT% 79.3
PTS 15.7
3’s 1.1
REB 6.1
AST 3.8
BLK .4

REB and STLS are my strongest catagory finishing a bit above the league avg last season.

I am worried about Iggys TO’s, caron butler was a serious option at the 17 pick, but iggys assists #’s decided it for me. I like him quite a bit. I get yr point though. The second round is dead this season. YOu have upside or veterens. Like they said here, 12-24 could go any way and no one would gripe about it.

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DM
October 17th, 2007 3:42 pm

hi everyone … i’m in london with limited internet access. what the hell is going on with kobe and is gilbert going to be able to hit a shot this year? cheerio! sorry about the rankings, more next week!

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