Tweaking With Trades

So you drafted your team and the season has begun. Hopefully you managed to grab your homer and sleeper picks, and it’d be nice if all of your players were performing well. However, with numerous players struggling early on this year, this is not likely the case. As a result, it is time to start making some trades, and quickly. When looking at the early-season trade, there are two trends that emerge: (1) Buy Low/Sell High and (2) Benefits From Position Scarcity. Let’s look at both situations a little bit more in-depth.

Buy Low: Right now most teams in the league have played four or five games. While it is still a small sample size, it is enough time for owners to begin worrying about whether players will bounce back from injury (i.e. Gilbert Arenas), coming off a contract year (Mo Williams) or simply struggling (Kirk Heinrich). Granted, I think it is pretty safe to assume that most of these players will have value similar to what they did last year, but right now there is the window of opportunity to go shopping and obtain these players for a good value. Granted, most intelligent fantasy managers won’t give up on their early-round picks very quickly, but if the player continues to struggle for another few weeks, then it may be much easier to pry them away.

Sell High: On the other side of the same coin, we see that there are players who are playing great basketball right now. Some are simply overachieving (Richard Jefferson, Jamaal Crawford) while others are benefiting from team injuries (Chris Kaman, John Salmons). If you are lucky enough to own some players who are currently starting on a very fast pace, you may be able to flip them for a more proven commodity. This is especially effective in the 2-for-2 player trade, as opposing managers may not immediately think you are trying to scam him with the buy-low, sell-high technique. These players, while I think will have good value this year, are still at the mercy of if their teammates return (such as Elton Brand to the Clippers) or if they fall-out of the rotation (look at Portland’s current roster flux as an example).

Injury Advantage: A third component to the buy-low, sell-high strategy has to come from dealing with injured players, as they can often be bought for much lower value than they are worth. This usefulness of this technique depends on which format you play (note that I play more H2H than Roto), but if you can afford to carry injured players on your roster, you could really end up with some great value. For example, right now I’m sure that whoever owns Mike Bibby is not looking forward to holding onto him for weeks. He’s too valuable to drop, and yet it is very hard to win without having a player for weeks on end. What I like to do is wait, once the player gets injured, for a few weeks; this achieves two things: (1) the owner becomes increasingly frustrated and (2) the player is closer to returning. I then try to sell low and obtain the player. As the season progresses there will be several of these opportunities, so watch for these chances to poach.

Benefits From Position Scarcity: Unfortunately I wasn’t able to share this advice before everyone drafted, but here is something to consider. Most leagues require you to start two centers, and yet the talent pool for centers is extremely shallow, especially once injuries around the league start to pile up. However, if you find yourself with an excess of talent at the PG or C position, you can leverage these to upgrade to better players. I cannot tell you how many times I have been in a live draft and notice a few of the teams auto-drafting. Sure enough, I try and make sure that I stock up on centers, as often managers will realize once the draft is over that they only have two players to put in the position, leaving no one to rotate in. Seeing as I have maybe 5+ center-eligible big men, I can afford to give up one or two if I get superior talent (a mid-round swing-man) in return. Granted, this might not help you right now, so try to remember it for the next time you draft. Take a look at both your roster and those of other people in the league to identify managers you could use this technique to trade with.

A Real Example: My basis for these thoughts come from a year ago, where I swindled multiple intelligent fantasy managers in my league. After the draft, one manager only had two center eligible players, and they were not good (one was Tony Battie I believe). I ended up trading the over-performing Zaza Pachulia and Larry Hughes for the under-performing Luol Deng and David West. Granted, that trade looks completely lopsided, and it was, but between being stressed with not having enough centers and seeing his players struggle and mine over-perform, he bit and took the trade. I then was able to swap Deng for an injured Josh Howard. Of course, Howard took the leap last year due to his three-point shooting, something he first demonstrated proficiency for during the 2006 playoffs. In the end, I won this league easily, by adhering to some of the techniques stressed above. You might not find deals quite like this, but using injuries, position scarcity, and over/under performing players to your advantage, you may find yourself in a very good position at the mere beginning of the season.

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dave
November 8th, 2007 3:09 pm

Hey in a 12 team 12 man roster H2H league, Should Brand be owned?

Also has anyone seen Dallas play? How does Diop look? Is he going to lose a lot of p/t when Damphier gets back?

Not by design but it appears my team will be punting all point categories, so Diop if he keeps playing this way works very well for me.

Also in our league I thought I pulled a great trade (because of position scarcity), and traded Iverson/Bynum (he desperatley needed a PG) for Amare/Reuban P. As of today I don’t look so good.

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bv
November 8th, 2007 3:44 pm

dave, brand should be owned in almost any format, i think. i’d grab diop and play him for sure, esp if you’re punting points. he may lose a bit of value once dampier comes back but you can never have too many c’s. and as an Amare owner myself, I feel your pain. trust me.

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tone
November 8th, 2007 10:52 pm

right now i have francisco garcia. not sure how he will do next week when artest comes back, but jameer nelson is available. who should i get

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Ray Recca
November 9th, 2007 7:53 am

guys I own gilbert and amare (my first two picks). Both are having need problems, you guys have insight? Especially since you guys are big-time wizard fans.

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Jeremy
November 9th, 2007 9:30 am

I feel for ya with those picks. I have Gilbert as well, and Amare is hard to pass up in the second round. Amare came back from a much worse surgery last year to become 1st-Team All-NBA, and Gilbert goes through hot and cold streaks. Based on my article from today, there isn’t much you can do yet. You can’t panic and sell your first couple rounders short for lesser value.

On a side note, Sam Cassell seems a decent play for a game or two as Clippers have depleted backcourt depth. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cliprep9nov09,1,4385233.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

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camby_for_arenas?
November 9th, 2007 12:46 pm

I’ve got camby–he’s got arenas.

I have needs in both areas (points/3’s — block rebounds).

Question: just on the face of this trade, regardless of the rest of the team makeup, would you make this trade?

Thanks–P

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bv
November 9th, 2007 12:53 pm

p, i would be shocked to see anybody draft camby with arenas still on the board. arenas is just in a higher class - when healthy - and camby’s health is never a sure thing anyways.

that said, i thought gil looked pretty good last night, but who knows if he’ll have to get that knee drained again? and amare, well, he’s killing me too.

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Alex
November 9th, 2007 3:56 pm

IH2H Camby (when playing) is as valuable if not more so than Arenas. He is definetly more consistent and when you are playing H2H it is all about consistency, as averages don’t help you that much. To over-exagerate, if Arenas scores 100 pts with tons of 3s and steals in one game and then doesn’t show up in the next 5 you will probably loose one of those weeks big time. In roto it will average out but in H2H it won’t. I had Arenas last year and had to deal with those streaks all year long. Stick with Camby

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Andy
November 9th, 2007 11:18 pm

For a backup PF spot: Lee, Yi, or Murphy? I love Lee’s game but he’s just not getting minutes, and I’m already strong in boards and percentages. Yi and Murphy could both help me in 3s and blocks (weaker cats for me), plus Murphy’s got C eligibility. Thoughts?

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Jeremy
November 10th, 2007 1:59 am

When healthy, Camby is clearly the best center in the game, just dominating blocks and boards, with good steals and percentages. But it comes down to health. He had a good run last year, but can he keep it up? I’m not so sure. Next week he’ll probably break a finger again or something. I would be hard pressed to sell Gilbert short already.

Andy, I think you should forget Lee in your situation. If you need blocks, go with Yi, as he’ll get more. Murphy could have significantly more value if he returns to form from a couple of years ago, but I don’t know how he factors in O’Brien’s faster-paced offense.

That’s it for me, I’m off to Russia to scout the next big NBA talent…err, yeah. See ya in a week.

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ray
November 10th, 2007 4:15 am

Even with Camby’s injury history I think he still goes drafted a little too late because of it. The argument for camby is that the types of injuries hes suffered from through his career are generally not season ending injuries. Yeah, he usually breaks a finger etc.

So, there was an andray blatche sighting tonight. Haywood is on the decline again possibly. Is it too early to pick him up?

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ray
November 10th, 2007 4:21 am

Yi’s been looking pretty solid so far.

Troy Murphy will be overrated because of his 3’s at the C position. It’s the same thing that happens with Mehmet Okur. Murphy’s going to give you like 10/5 and a 3 for the rest of the season. The 3’s are impressive from the C, but he’ll underperform everywhere else. He’ll never reach his GSW numbers again.

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Matthew
November 12th, 2007 8:22 am

Jeremy,

Did you start your blog?

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Tim
November 12th, 2007 12:24 pm

Ok

I own Kaman and kinda want to get sonmething for him while he is hot…

My team

Pg: Kidd
G: Redd
SG: J. Johnson
F: Artest
PF: Al. Harrington
C: Ming
C: Kaman
Util: Darko
Util: Murphy

Bench: Acie Law, Brad Miller, D. Wilkens, Diop

I am targetting B. Davis….

The guy’s team is:

PG: Daniel Gibson
SG: Iverson
G: Mo. Williams
SF: Smith
F: D. West
PF: M. Williams
C: Amare
C: Bogut
Util: B. Davis
Util: Ellis

Bench: Rafer, Abukizie, Diaw, Rondo

I think maybe Kaman for Davis straight up and see if he bites…

What dio you think…

what is the level of PG (need assists) that I can get back for Kaman right now

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ray
November 12th, 2007 2:10 pm

in my league this trade went through

brandon roy for chris kaman

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Matthew
November 13th, 2007 9:08 am

Hey,

Looking for thoughts/opinions:

I just got offered Barbosa, Biedrins and Prince for Redd and J-Smoove. I realize that there’s no way in hell I would accept this as I lose the best player in the deal, but might it be worth reworking? If so, how?

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Tim
November 13th, 2007 9:48 am

If you take anything close to a reworking of that deal you my friend have sunk your season

Redd and Jsmoove are the two best players in the deal…

Barbosa and Biedrins and Prince are not work Smoove himself…

please do not do that deal….

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Tim
November 13th, 2007 9:49 am

I assume J-smoove is Josh Smith…

Am I mistaken? - if it is someone else then maybe I am wrong

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Andy
November 13th, 2007 12:22 pm

Tim, you’re right, and I agree. Any version of that deal that involves Smith makes no sense with the insane defensive numbers he is putting up. I would argue that you need to get 1st round value if you deal Smith right now.

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Tim
November 13th, 2007 12:50 pm

SweeT!!!

He did it - Davis for Kaman

I think this is perfect for me (and may have been helped by Davis being a little hobbled - oh please don;t get hurt now… but it is the perfect example fo the buy low sell high in action!!!)

New team

PG: J. Kidd
SG: J. Johnson
G: B. Davis
SF: J. Richardson
F: R. Artest
PF: A. Harrington
C: Ming
C: Milicic
Util: Redd
Util: T. Murphy

Bench: Diop, B. Miller, Acie Law, Damien Wilkens

Do you agree with my line-up
Nothing available on the waiver wiore - but this should help with my assists. I think i am still ok with rebounds with kidd, Milicic, Ming and Murphy.

I think this is a great deal - let me know if you agree!!!!

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Matthew
November 13th, 2007 12:51 pm

Fair enough…the ridiculous block totals are unbelievable. With him, Gasol, R. Brewer and Ratliff, my D numbers will be very strong.

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CN
November 13th, 2007 3:38 pm

Two trades to run buy ya’ll:

Durant for Ray Allen

Mike Miller for Kirk Hinrich

I need guards badly. I’m currently starting Stojakovic and Barbosa.

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ray
November 13th, 2007 6:57 pm

i wouldn’t do the durant for ray allen trade unless you get ray allen

if you get hinrich for miller i’d do it.

what about jeff green? he feels pretty legit to me right now.

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CN
November 13th, 2007 8:48 pm

should i drop cassell for green?

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ray
November 14th, 2007 5:38 am

id personally do it, but it’s a bit of a gamble. looking at his game logs though he’s been semi consistent in the last few games for a rookie. this is off nba.com

Analysis: Green, who’s averaged 16 points in his last three games, totaled 12 points, seven rebounds and three steals in 27 minutes. While’s he’s likely to continue as a reserve for at least the immediate future, Green is pushing for more minutes. Considering Green, with Kevin Durant, is the future of the franchise, he’ll likely see 25-30 minutes more often than not.

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