It’s All About Trust

In fantasy basketball, it’s not what you’ve done for me all year - it’s not even what you’ve done for me lately.  It’s what I think you’re going to do for me tomorrow.  Every month, as I put together my New! Updated! Top 20! column, I’ve got to look at names at the top of the APR that don’t look like they belong, and that’s the question I have to ask myself - even more than what they did last month, what can I expect them to do next month?  Right now we’ve got a couple of guys who are experiencing breakout years, and while they might not qualify for Top 20 consideration (though at least 1 or 2 of these guys do), let’s at least discuss them a little in depth and see if we think we can trust them to keep up their efforts.

Chris Kaman - I think that any draft-steal, breakout-player conversation has to start with Kaman, who’s been playing completely out of his mind all year.  Not only that, but it seems fairly sustainable.  He really dipped in production last year, but if you account for his hamstring issues that he fought all season, his 18.59 PER for this year is actually fairly reasonable.  He’s not shooting an un-typically high percentage, and a lot of his statistical surge can be chalked up to his additional minutes, which I don’t see dropping any time soon.  To me, the concern isn’t so much with Kaman as it is with his teammates - he’s averaged under 10 shots per game over his last three, and there’s concern that he’s not vocal enough to demand the ball when he’s not seeing enough touches.  I don’t think that’s an issue - Coach Mike Dunleavy has been a big supporter and I think if this keeps up Dunleavy will see to it that Kaman gets his shots.  There will be a touch of sell-high fever if this keeps up another game or two, and I think you might be able to grab Kaman at a discount if you time it right.  He’s definitely trustable at around 4th round value right now, and could be worth 2nd or 3rd round consideration in the right circumstances.

Hedo Tukoglu - Pretty funny how the Magic went out and spent a kajillion dollars on the real Rashard Lewis, when really they had their own version on their team the whole time.  Turkoglu, like Kaman, had a disappointing year last year which makes his improvement all the more staggering.  Also like Kaman, Turkoglu has really seen the benefit of more playing time, and that’s been the real cause for his breakout season.  But there are other, subtler things going on as well, like his greater involvement in the offense - Turkoglu is still primarily a jump shooter, but he’s taking more jump shots than ever before, and because he’s always been a decent percentage guy, this has been only good news for his owners.  The problem for Turkoglu is that he’s got much more of a history than Kaman, and he’s much older - at 28 years old, the improvement is much less likely to last. While he’s definitely improved his value this year, his 27 spot on the APR is somewhere between way too high and a little too high - I’d have trouble convincing myself he’s got anything better than 5th round value right now, and even if he keeps this up all year I still wouldn’t touch him before the 4th next year.

Rudy Gay - Now this is the kind of breakout season we all can enjoy.  There are virtually no red flags here - the kid is only 21 years old, he’s in his second year, he showed plenty of promise last year, it’s his first shot at consistent starter’s minutes, and he’s making the most of them.  In fact, pretty much the only bad thing you can say about him is that even though his stats are so good, his team still stinks - but there are plenty of others to shoulder that blame (Pau Gasol, anyone?).  Yes the jump seems a little severe at first glance, but when you split last year in half and look at his progression from pre-All Star break to post-break to this year as three pieces, it looks very reasonable.  The only question at this point is, how much can he improve now?  HIs stats have been slowly improving month-to-month even, and at this rate he could be putting up 25/8 by April with big numbers in threes and steals.  Right now he’s at 33 on the APR and I think that’s actually pretty accurate as far as his overall value goes too, but I’d bet you can probably get him a little cheaper than that.

Brad Miller - This one really only makes a little bit of sense.  Like Kaman and Turkoglu, Miller struggled through injuries last year which deflated his numbers across the board, but he also is older than both of them at 31 and has quite a bit of mileage on him.  He looked to be left for dead by the end of last year and there wasn’t much reason to think he’d be any better than a C2 for the rest of his career.  This year, though, has been a nice mini-resurgence as he’s gone back to being an asset pretty much across the board.  With pretty much the entire Kings starting lineup injured, Miller’s returned as a fantasy force.  It’s not like his per-minute numbers ever took too big of a hit - it was his minutes more than anything that suffered last year.  The issues for Miller are two - limited upside and lingering injury risk.  I guess you could say there are three risks as there’s always the possibility that the Kings throw in the towel on the season and throw Spencer Hawes to the wolves (not the T-Wolves, the actual wolves), but I don’t think that’s really a possibility as that approach doesn’t work to well for young bigs - it usually damages their confidence more than anything else.  But the lack of upside and injury risk are very real for Miller, and that will keep him at probably around a 7th round value or so rather than at the 5th round, where he’s playing right now.

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dave
January 8th, 2008 8:03 am

1 player I drafted 144th (last pick overall) that I think belongs up there is Dunleavy. He has been a machine all season. Even though he is offering 3rd round value I doubt I could trade him for anything in the top 6.

Also I am curious when you say 18.59 PER where are you getting that from? I know everyone uses there own ranking system, but other sites will throw out numbers like that too and was curious where it comes from.

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bv
January 8th, 2008 9:39 am

Dave, I definitely coulda put Dunleavy up there as well, you’re absolutely right. the 18.59 PER isn’t a ranking at all - it’s Player Efficiency Rating, John Hollinger’s favorite stat over at ESPN.com.

03
Nageek
January 8th, 2008 12:12 pm

i love having kaman on my team,

04
cman
January 8th, 2008 3:05 pm

Keep an eye on Bynum. He might challenge for Top 20 status real soon. In his last 10 games he’s about 17/11 with almost 3 blocks while shooting almost 70% FG and 70% FT. He seems to be getting better every game.

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Jhelf
January 12th, 2008 1:01 pm

Question to everyone out there.
I am in a 10 team, H2H, Keeper league.
Currently in 7 place. 10.5 games back.
The team as of now is
Amare, GWallace, Iggy, Hedo, KevMartin, AntDaniels, Troy Murphy, Daniel Gibson,joe Smith, Beidris.

Just traded
Kidd, Jefferson, Kaman
for
Baron, Gasol, Brand.

Thoughts on WHY i did this.
kidd wont keep up his numbers and is getting older
Jefferson has gone from ranked in the 30’s to now the high 50’s.
Kaman- although playing out of his mind, I dont think he can keep it up when Brand eventually comes back

feeedback–

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HWingo
January 13th, 2008 4:52 pm

Breakout players? What about:
Chris Paul
Caron Butler
John Salmons
Grant Hill
Jamal Tinsley
Jose Calderon

All of ‘em are outperforming pre-season expectations by far. The PT might not last for Salmons and Calderon, and it remains to be seen whether Hill continues his resurgence when he returns from injury, but thus far, I’d say, they deserve to be in the discussion.

Dunleavy’s the biggest surprise of all, in my book. And Kaman’s the biggest stud of the bunch. Wish I’d picked him when he was sitting there in the 7th and 8th rounds.

And Jhelf, I think you should’ve used the word “if” instead of “when” in the phrase “when Brand eventually comes back.” Terrible trade.

08
January 16th, 2008 8:59 am

Please help…

I am leading my league right now…11 team 9 category roto

My team

PG: Kidd
G: B. Davis
SG: J. Rich
SF: F. Garcia
F: A. Harrington
PF: T. Duncan
C: Ming
C: B. Miller
Util: J. Johnson
Util: N. Robinson

Bench: Diaw, Artest, Nocioni, T. Murphy

another person in this league is targeting Richardson - he keeps on asking me for him. He offerted Durant straight up but I refused. Now he wants me to put together a package for J. Rich. Right now I have a very large lead in threes in the league. I have punted FG percentage. I am leading in Assists, Rebounds, Pts., 3, high in FT%., Medium in blocks and rising in steals.

Do you see anything I should try for in his line-up (I may want to go after wallace…)

His team:

Caldaron, Roy, Bibby, G. Wallace, Wilcox, Durant, Horford, O’Neil, Redd (who i traded to him for Duncan), Conely, , Hill, Brewer, Blatche, Prince.

I could see doing G. Wallace straight up for Richardson as it will give me steals and blocks while only really losing me threes which i will have a lot of anyways (see Harrington, J. Johnson, Davis - maybe enough to even hold on to the lead - I am over 100 threes higher then my closest competitior)

I was also thinking maybe trading J. Johnson straight for Durant….

He has said he would do Horford and Durant for J. Richardson (but I do not think that is very good for me…). Durant is ok on my team as his awful FG% would not hurt me so i would like to pick him up….

Any thoughts would be welcome…

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m00c0w
January 16th, 2008 11:55 am

Jhelf,

That is one horrible trade. MAYBE if u traded just Kidd and Richard Jefferson for Baron and Gasol, then it could be equal value. However, also including Kaman for Brand in the deal is just plain silly. Brand may not even come back this year (he said himself that his estimate of coming back in Feb may be overly optimistic), and even if he comes back, god knows what he will be capable of.

On top of that, you traded for Baron Davis, who is himself susceptible to missing multiple games every year.

Furthermore, Gasol has been underperforming, but he has been doing better in January since Mike Conley took over the PG role, so there’s still hopes that he’ll be able to get back to having first round value.

Maybe you were thinking Kaman will lose all his value once Brand comes back, but then again, why trade the sure thing for now for something so uncertain? Look at Amare when he came back from surgery a couple of years ago…

Seriously, dunno what u were thinking…

10
January 16th, 2008 11:56 am

What about

I trade Richardson and filler (Noccioni, Garcia etc…) for Durant and Bibby

any thoughts?

11
m00c0w
January 16th, 2008 11:57 am

Forgot to mention that the clippers aren’t looking to even make the playoffs this year, so why bother rushing Brand back?

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January 17th, 2008 12:09 am

dudes, no one noticed he’s in a *keeper* league? Brand’s going to better than Kaman next season and beyond until he starts for as long as Brand’s still in his prime.

13
January 18th, 2008 8:02 am

Ok - Just thought I would add here what happened. As I said I am leading a league with a big cash prize (like $1000) - I am punting FG% and TOs but virtually leading all other categories except blocks where i am ok…

11 team ROTO league…
After some trades (I traded Kaman for B. Diddy and M,. Redd for T. Duncan)

my team is as follows:

PG: Kidd
G: B. Diddy
SG: J. Johson
SF: J. Rich
F: Artest
PF: T. Duncan
C: Ming
C: B. Miller
Util: B. Diaw
Util: A. Harrington

Given that I do not care about FG% or Turnovers I have been targetting guys whose deficiencies are in those areas (i.e. like J. Richardson or Kidd) and recently traded A. Harrington (as I am way ahead in 3s) K. Durant

So I think i am now set.,.. Any advice from you gurus anyone else I should target? i think it iis very unusual to be first in a roto league and punting two categories (I hate Tos as a stat but i am dead last in it…)

Let me know if you have any advice

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Nasir
January 18th, 2008 11:46 am

FBB-

How come your entries are so infrequent now?

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